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Mon Aug 22 20:18:21 2022, Anchal, Summary, NoiseBudget, Birefringence noise in thermo-optic noise
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Tue Aug 23 19:56:21 2022, Anchal, Summary, NoiseBudget, Birefringence noise in thermo-optic noise
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Tue Aug 23 22:04:24 2022, awade, Summary, NoiseBudget, Birefringence noise in thermo-optic noise
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Thu Aug 25 19:38:01 2022, Anchal, Summary, NoiseBudget, Birefringence noise in thermo-optic noise
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Thu Aug 25 19:19:27 2022, Anchal, Summary, NoiseBudget, Looking at the measured and estimated photothermal transfer functions 
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Fri Aug 26 15:56:38 2022, Anchal, Summary, NoiseBudget, Checking with Martin Fejer's calculations 
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Message ID: 2617
Entry time: Fri Aug 26 15:56:38 2022
In reply to: 2615
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Anchal |
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NoiseBudget |
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Checking with Martin Fejer's calculations |
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Martin Fejer recently gave two talks in a coatings workshop where he showed calculations regarding the thermal photoelastic channel. I have not been able to under the logic behind some of the calculations yet, nevertheless, I used his formulas for our coatings to get an alternative idea of this noise coupling.
Major difference
- Fejer argues that free body thermal expansion does not generate any strain, and it is only when the substrate is present to counteract with it, that such strain is generated.
- Hence, the calculation goes as: thermal expansion -> stress in presence of substrate -> strain -> photoelastic effect.
- So instead of the simple
contribution for photoelastic tensor and thermal expansion that I take, the term is:

- This gives an effective (averaged with layer thickness weighting) coefficient of thermal photoelasticity of 1.45e-5 K-1 instead of 4.30e-5 K-1 from my calculations. That's a reduction by a factor of roughly 3.
Updates
- Attached is the photothermal transfer function calculated with TPE contribution as calculated by Fejer. This makes the situation bit more messy on what to trust.
- I updated the noise budget with two new noise traces, the thermo-photoelastic contribution as calculated by Fejer and the total thermo-optic noise as calculated by Fejer.
I just received more calculation notes of Fejer (through Yuta) which I'll study and try to make more sense of this calculation. It also contains the calculations of sough-after birefringence noise.. But in his presentation as well, he stated that birefringence noise is not sourced through termperature fluctuations and is not part of thermo-optic noise (something I didn't understand again). |
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