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Wed Sep 25 23:15:11 2013 |
Masayuki | Summary | Green Locking | FPMI noise caused by ARM locking | I measured some error signal, OLTFs and responses for FPMI noise estimation. Especially we are interested in the noise from in-loop noise of ALS Green PDH control. The strategy and
1) Purpose
Estimation of the FPMI phase shift noise caused by in-loop noise of Green PDH control.
2) What we should figure out
For that estimation we have to figure out the transfer function from the cavity length change to the phase shift which is measured by MICH.
3) Strategy
I attached the block diagram of our interferometer. Our goal is to find the transfer function H_L-l and to calibrate the out of loop noise of interferometer with that TF and error signal of the PDH control.
H,A and F mean the sensitivity, actuator response and servo filter for each control loop. L_xarm is the disturbance of the cavity length and l- is the differencial motion of the interferometer
We can get this H_L-l from measurement of the response from calibrated ETM actuation to the MICH error signal. You can get the formula for calculating H_L-l with simple calculation and that is
1 + G_mich 1 + G_xarm V_mi
H_L-l = --------------- ----------------- ------------
H_mich A_etmx V_excetm
where the each G is OLTF and V_mi/Vexcetm is the response from the ETM actuation to the MICH error signal.
And then the FPMI noise in the unit of meter / rHz is
H_L-l
N_fpmi = l_dis + ------------ Vx
H_mich
This second term is what we are interested in.
To estimate these noises
i) We can calibrate the actuators of ITMX, ITMY and BS with using the MICH as sensor. So we can calibrate the arm error signals by excitation of arm length using ITMs actuator.
ii) If we know the TFs of arms, we can calibrate the ETMX and ETMY actuators.
iii) We should know the response from ETMX or ETMY actuating to error signal of mich.
iv) Also we should calibrate the error signal of MICH in FPMI locking(H_mich). We can do that by exciting the BS.
Then we can estimate the noises.
In next entry, I will write about measurement.
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Wed Sep 25 23:59:29 2013 |
Masayuki | Summary | Green Locking | FPMI noise caused by ARM locking |
Measurement with ARMs
i) By locking the MICH with AS55Q signal I measured the actuator response of ITMX ITMY BS for calibration of each actuator. This measurement was done at the same time with elog#9158. The actuator response was
BS : 2.2347e-8 / f^2 [m/count]
ITMX: 5.0843e-9 /f^2 [m/count]
ITMY: 4.9677e-9 / f^2 [m/count]
ii)By locking the Arms for IR with POX,POY. I measured the OLTF and the response from ITM actuation to POX and POY signal. Attachment 1,2 are the plots of fitted OLTF , the measured OLTF, and residual function (model - measure)/model and the attachment 3,4 are the response of each arm. I fitted the three parameters. Those are the gain, time-delay and cavitypole. Each fitted parameter is
XARM ;
timedelay:-282.09 usec, cavity pole : 2872.0 Hz
YARM ;
timedelay:-283.84 usec, cavity pole : 2939.9 Hz
The cavity pole seems higher than privious measurement (In 2009). Actually the residual function are increase at the higher frequency region than 1kHz, so I guess the fitting is not so good.One possibility is that in the region where cavity pole effect increase we has not much data.
With fitted OLTF and actuator response I calibrated the H_xarm and H_yarm.
Hxarm : 2.9796 e11 [count / m]
Hyarm : 6.1394 e11 [count / m]
iii) After that I measured the response from ETM actuation to POX and POY signal to calibrate the ETM actuator. The response of each actuator is
ETMX:1.2040e-8 / f^2 [m/count]
ETMY:1.4262e-8 / f^2 [m/count]
iv) I calibrated the error signal with OLTF and Hxarm,Hyarm. The result is in Attachment 5
In high frequency region there is the difference between xarm and yarm. These difference are already there in error signal. I'm not sure where these noise comes from. We will make measurement with Green PDH from tomorrow, so we can also check with those measurement.
In other region the two noises are very close and also very similar to the plot of the seismic motion in the control room (attached on the front of TV screen). |
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Thu Sep 26 01:49:28 2013 |
Masayuki | Summary | Green Locking | FPMI noise caused by ARM locking |
Measurement with FPMI
i)By locking the FPMI with AS55Q and arms using POX,POY we measured the OLTF on AS55Q, the response from BS actuation to error signal on AS55Q for H_mich. The fitted, measured OLTF and the residual function is in attachment1. I fitted two parameters and they are time-delay and the gain. The time delay is -275 usec. The time delay in three different control are almost same. The response from BS to AS55Q is in attachment 2.
With these two measuremets, I calclated the H_mich in FPMI. This H_mich should be different from simple MI because the cavity refrectivity is different from the front mirror. Acrually it changed and the value was
Hmich = 4.4026e7
ii) I excited the ETMX and ETMY and measure the response from actuation to the error signal of MICH on AS55Q. The response is in attachment 3 and 4. from these result I calculated the H_L-l by using the formula as I mentioned. The value was
H_Lx-l = 175.7650 (XARM)
H_Ly-l = 169.8451 (YARM)
iii) I measured the error signal of MICH and XARM and YARM and with measured H_L-l, I estimated the FPMI noise caused by ARM locking. You can see in the higher frequency region than 10 Hz is dominated by noise caused by ARM control in-loop noises. 150 Hz and 220Hz are the UGF of each arms, so the two peaks are caused by arm control. You can see the small difference between FPMI noise and noise from arms. There are two possibilities, one is that these measurement is not same time measurement so they should have small difference. and other possibility is the error of the caliculation. But I think it doesn't look so bad estimation.
Next step
We will do same measurement with lock the arms the ALS system on tomorrow. Then we will check the PDH servo or other noise source and investigate the ALS system
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Thu Sep 26 23:02:40 2013 |
rana | Update | LSC | FPMI noise caused by ARM locking | Hidden in Nakano-kun's previous entries was that the phase margin of the X-Arm was only 9 degrees!! This extremely close to instability and makes for huge gain peaking. The feedback loop is increasing noise above 100 Hz rather than suppress. After some tweaks of the LSC filters we got a much more stable loop/.
So we today started to examine the sources of phase lag in the arm cavity sweeps. There were a few unfortunate choices in the XARM LSC filter bank which we tuned to get less delay.
Then I wrote a bunch of detail about how that worked, but the ELOG ate my entry because it couldn't handle converting my error signal noise plot into a thumbnail. Then it crashed and I restarted it. We also have now propagated the changes to the Y arm by copy/paste the filters and the result there is pretty much the same: low phase margin is now 38 deg phase margin. Noise is less bad.
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Fri Sep 27 00:48:53 2013 |
Masayuki | Update | LSC | FPMI noise caused by ARM locking |
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Hidden in Nakano-kun's previous entries was that the phase margin of the X-Arm was only 9 degrees!! This extremely close to instability and makes for huge gain peaking. The feedback loop is increasing noise above 100 Hz rather than suppress. After some tweaks of the LSC filters we got a much more stable loop/.
So we today started to examine the sources of phase lag in the arm cavity sweeps. There were a few unfortunate choices in the XARM LSC filter bank which we tuned to get less delay.
Then I wrote a bunch of detail about how that worked, but the ELOG ate my entry because it couldn't handle converting my error signal noise plot into a thumbnail. Then it crashed and I restarted it. We also have now propagated the changes to the Y arm by copy/paste the filters and the result there is pretty much the same: low phase margin is now 38 deg phase margin. Noise is less bad.
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[Rana, Masayuki
I made the plot of the phase of the digital filters which Rana change and also of the AA, AI, DAA, DAI filters. Now the biggest phase delay come from the timedelay of the digital system.

The UGF is around 150 Hz at that frequency the time delay has biggest phase delay. Second one is the FM9 filter (this filter is BOOST filter). Then we have the AA filter, AI filter and so on, but these delay is roughly 5 degree.
As I said in previous entry, the time delay of the XARM control is roughly 300 usec, and we have 120 usec even only in C1SUS. Also between the C!SUS and C1LSC we have another 120 usec time delay. We want to increase the UGF to 300 Hz but because of the time delay of the digital system we cannot increase. So we should fix this problem.
After changing these filters, the FPMI noise is become better at high frequency. Before we have peak around the 100 Hz (because of 8 degree phase margin...), but they are gone. i attached the noise spectrum. This plot is measured by the real time calibration output. But even then, you can see the extra noise around 100 Hz in FPMI conpare to only MICH.

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Fri Oct 4 02:08:32 2013 |
Masayuki | Update | Green Locking | FPMI with ALS arm stabilization | [Manasa, Masayuki]
We locked MICH with 2 arms stabilized by ALS control.
Measurement
We measured the power spectrum of the LSC-MICH_IN1 at each step so as to know the in-loop noise of MICH. And also we measured the OLTF of MICH loop and the error signal with BS excited at 580 Hz and MICH notch filter at same frequency enabled to obtain the MICH calibration factor.
1. We locked MICH using the AS55Q error signal and fedback to BS actuator. (Red curve)
2. We locked MICH and locked both the arms using POX11 and POY11 error signals and fedback to ETMs actuators.(Blue curve)
3. We stabilized both the arms using ALS. We use the ALS error signals and fedback to ETMs actuators. And then we locked MICH.(Magenta curve)
Attachment
The green and brown curve are the ALS in-loop noise, which is the _PHASE_OUT_Hz calibrated error signals. So for these two curves the unit of vertical axis is Hz/rHz. The other curves are the MICH in-loop noises and these are not calibrated. So for these curves the unit of vertical axis is counts/rHz.
Discussion
The UGF of MICH loop is 10 Hz with phase margin of 45 degrees (measured today). The FPMI noise with ALS stabilized arms is much larger than the FPMI with IR PDH locked arms above 30 Hz. That is because the ALS arm stability is not as good as the stability of PDH locked arms. We have to analyze and verify the calibrated numbers for FPMI + ALS with model. |
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Wed Oct 23 00:13:30 2013 |
Masayuki | Update | Green Locking | FPMI with ALS arm stabilization | Summary
In 2arms + MICH configuration, residual motion of the cavity will couple with MICH signal. When cavity length change, the reflectivity of cavity also change. And that cause the phase shift in reflected light. That phase shift is detected in MICH signal. When we try to lock the DRMI + arm, that coupling will be problem for lock acquisition. For practice to estimate that coupling, I estimated the coupling between the cavity motion and the AS55Q signal.
What I did
- Measurement steps
I did the same measurement as that of this entry. For the estimation below steps are needed. The detail of each step will be written below.
--Measurement and calibration of the AS55Q error signal with MICH + 2arms locked by ALS control
--Measurement of the ALS in-loop noise and estimation of residual motion of the cavities.
--Calibration of the coupling from residual arm motion to AS55Q signal
- Calibration of the AS55Q signal
1. Sensor gain estimation
We used the same method as the previous entry,
We excited the BS at 580 Hz with a given amplitude (Vin). We enabled the notch filter at 580 Hz in the LSC MICH servo. We measured the peak height (Verr) of the AS55Q error signal. We used the actuator response (A_bs) of BS measured in this entry.
We can get the sensor gain (H) of AS55Q in unit of count/m
Verr 1
H = ------- -------
Vin A_bs
By this calculation H = 4.2e+07.
2. Fitting of OLTF for the MICH loop
We measured the OLTF of the MICH loop. Modelled OLTF is fitted into the measurement data. That modelled OLTF includes the actuator response of BS, the MICH servo filters, DAI,DAA,AI,AA filters, the TF of sample and hold circuit. (About DAI, DAA filters and S/H circuit please read this entry. About AI,AA filters please read this entry) Also I put time-delay into that OLTF. I estimated that time-delay and the gain of OLTF by fitting. The time delay was 311usec.

3. Estimation of the MICH free running noise
With modeled OLTF, I estimated the MICH free running noise.
Estimation of the coupling from residual cavity motion to AS55Q signal
The ALS in-loop noise data has the unit of Hz/rHz (disturbance of the cavity resonant frequency). By multiplying L_arm/f_laser we can convert the unit to m/rHz (disturbance of the cavity length) .
I used the same coupling constant between residual motion of cavity and MICH noise as this entry. For estimation of the coupling constant, we excited ETMs and measured the TF from excitation signal to AS55Q error signal. I assumed the cavity pole as 4000 Hz. The result is discussed below
Discussion
ALS in-loop noise include the sensor noise. in high frequency region the in-loop noise is dominated by the sensor noise. So in this region in-loop noise does not mean actual residual motion of the cavity. And this sensor noise pushes the mirror. So we have to estimate the actual motion of the cavity by multiplying the servo transfer function of the control in this region.
I made 2 plots. Both include the MICH free running noise and estimated coupling noise from both arms. In one plot, for estimation of the coupling I multiplied only coupling constant to calibrated in-loop noise of the ALS loop. In another plot, I multiplied coupling constant and OLTF of ALS loop in order to estimate the actual motion of the cavity. If the 3 curves are coincide in first plot, that means the ALS in-loop noise is same as the residual cavity motion in that region and the MICH free running noise is dominated by coupling from residual cavity motion. If those curves are coincide in second plot, that means the ALS in-loop noise is sensor noise in that region.
Above 40 Hz, the 3 curves are totally in coincident in first plot. On the other hand in second plot the 3 curves look similar in this region. That may mean above 40 Hz the ALS noise are dominated by sensor noise and MICH free running noise is dominated by the coupling from residual cavity motion. Also in the region between 10 Hz and 40 Hz, the MICH free running noise seems to be dominated by coupling from cavity motion.
Figure 1

Figure 2

In second plot, the coupling from cavity motion is overestimated. It's possibly because of overestimation of coupling constant, but I'm not sure.
Koji mentioned that we should measure the residual motion of the cavity by using POX and POY. Now the ALS is much more stable than before, so I think we can easily do the measurement again with out of loop measurement. That will be more strait forward measurement. |
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Fri Jul 15 19:13:22 2022 |
Paco | Summary | LSC | FPMI with REFL/AS55 demod phase adjust | [Yuta, Paco]
- We first zero the offsets in ASDC, AS55, REFL55, POX11, and POY11 when PSL shutter is closed.
- After this, we checked the offsets with only ITMX aligned. Some of RFPDs had ~2 counts of offsets, which indicate some RFAM of sidebands, but we decided not to tune Marconi frequencies since the offsets were small enough.
- We went over the demod phases for AS55, REFL55, POX11, and POY11.
- For POX11/POY11 first we just minimized the Q in each locked XARM/YARM individually. The newfound values were
- C1:LSC-POX11_PHASE_R = 106.991
- C1:LSC-POY11_PHASE_R = -12.820
- Then we misaligned the XARM by getting rid of the MICH fringe in the ASDC port with ITMX yaw offset, and locked YARM using AS55_Q and REFL55_I and found the demod phase that minimized the AS55_I and REFL55_Q. The newfound values were
- C1:LSC-AS55_PHASE_R = -65.9586
- C1:LSC-REFL55_PHASE_R = -78.6254
- Repeating the above, but now misaligning YARM with ITMY yaw offset, locking XARM with AS55_Q and REFL55_I, we found the demod phases that minimized AS55_1 and REFL55_Q. The newfound values were
- C1:LSC-AS55_PHASE_R = -61.4361
- C1:LSC-REFL55_PHASE_R = -71.0434
- The above demod phases difference, Schnupp asymmetry between X and Y were measured. We repeated the measurement three times to derive the error.
- Optimal demod phase difference between X arm and Y arm for both AS55 and REFL55 were measured to be -4.5 +/- 0.1 deg, which means that lx-ly = 3.39 +/- 0.05 cm (Marconi frequency: 11.066195 MHz).
- We measured the gain difference between AS55_Q and POX11/POY11 = -0.5
- We measured the gain difference between REFL55_I and POX11/POY11 = -2.5
After this, we locked DARM, CARM and MICH using POX11_I, POY11_I and AS55 error signals respectively, and actuating on ETMX, MC2, and BS with NO TRIGGERS (but FM triggers were on for boosts as usual). Under this condition, FM5 is used for lock acquisition, and FM1, FM2, FM3, FM6 are turned on with FM triggers. No FM4 was on. We also noticed:
- CARM FM6 "BounceRoll" is slightly different than "YARM" FM6 "Bounce". The absent roll resonant gain actually makes it easier to control the CARM, we just had to use YARM filter for locking it.
- When CARM is controlled, we often just kick the ETMX to bring it near resonance, since the frequency noise drops and we otherwise have to wait long.
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Fri Jul 15 22:36:04 2022 |
rana | Summary | LSC | FPMI with REFL/AS55 demod phase adjust | Very nice!
DARM feedback should go to ETMY - ETMX, not just a single mirror: Differential ARM.
For it to work with 1 mirror the UGF of the CARM loop must be much larger than DARM UGF. But in our case, both have a UGF of ~150 Hz.
In principle, you could run the CARM loop with higher gain by using the CM servo board, but maybe that can wait until the X,Y -> CARM, DARM handoff.
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Fri Jul 1 08:50:48 2022 |
yuta | Summary | LSC | FPMI with REFL/AS55 trial | [Anchal, Paco, Yuta]
We tried to lock FPMI with REFL55 and AS55 this week, but no success yet.
FPMI locks with POX11, POY11 and ASDC for MICH stably, but handing over to 55's couldn't be done yet.
What we did:
- REFL55: Increased the whitening gain to 24dB. Demodulation phase tuned to minimize MICH signal in I when both arms are locked with POX and POY. REFL55 is noisier than AS55. Demodulation phase and amplitude of the signal seem to drift a lot also. Might need investigation.
- AS55: Demodulation phase tuned to minimize MICH signal in I when both arms are locked with POX and POY. Whitening gain is 24dB.
- Script for demodulation phase tuning lives in https://git.ligo.org/40m/scripts/-/blob/main/RFPD/getPhaseAngle.py
- Locking MICH with REFL55 Q: Kicks BS much and not so stable probably because of noisy REFL55. Offtet also needs to be adjusted to lock MICH to dark fringe.
- BS coil balancing: When MICH is "locked" with REFL55 Q, TRX drops rapidly and AS fringe gets worse, indicating BS coil balancing is not good. We balanced the coils by dithering POS with different coil output matrix gains to minimize oplev PIT and YAW output manually using LOCKINs.
- Locking MICH with ASDC: Works nicely. Offset is set to -0.1 in MICH filter and reduced to -0.03 after lock acquisition.
- ETMX/ETMY actuation balancing: We found that feedback signal to ETMX and ETMY at LSC output is unbalanced when locking with POX and POY. We dithered MC2 at 71 Hz, and checked feedback signals when Xarm/Yarm are locked to find out actuation efficiency imbalance. A gain of 2.9874 is put into C1:LSC-ETMX filter to balance ETMX/ETMY. I think we need to check this factor carefully again.
- TRX and TRY: We normalized TRX and TRY to give 1 when arms are aligned. Before doing this, we also checked the alignment of TRX and TRY DC PDs (also reduced green scattering for TRY). Together with ETMX/ETMY balancing, this helped making filter gains the same for POX and POY lock to be 0.02 (See, also 40m/16888).
- Single arm with REFL55/AS55: We checked that single arm locking with both REFL55_I and AS55_Q works. Single arm locking feeding back to MC2 also worked.
- Handing over to REFL55/AS55: After locking Xarm and Yarm using POX to ETMX and POY to ETMY, MICH is locked with ASDC to BS. Handing over to REFL55_I for CARM using ETMX+ETMY and AS55_Q for DARM using -ETMX+ETMY was not successful. Changing an actuator for CARM to MC2 also didn't work. There might be an unstable point when turning off XARM/YARM filter modules and switching on DARM/CARM filter modules with a ramp time. We also need to re-investigate correct gains and signs for DARM and CARM. (Right now, gains are 0.02 for POX and POY, -0.02 for DARM with AS55_Q (-ETMX+ETMY), -0.02 for CARM with REFL55_I with MC2 are the best we found so far)
Next:
- Measure ETMX and ETMY actuation efficiencies with Xarm/Yarm to balance the output matrix for DARM.
- Measure optical gains of POX11, POY11, AS55 and REFL55 when FPMI is locked with POX/POY/ASDC to find out correct filter gains for them.
- Make sure to measure OLTFs when doing above to correct for loop gains.
- Lock CARM with POY11 to MC2, DARM with POX11 to ETMX. Use input matrix to hand over instead of changing filter modules from XARM/YARM to DARM/CARM.
- Try using ALS to lock FPMI. |
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Thu Jul 14 00:10:08 2022 |
yuta | Summary | LSC | FPMI with REFL/AS55 trial continued | [Paco, Koji, Yuta]
We managed to lock MICH using REFL55_Q by setting the demodulation phases and offsets right.
The following is the current FPMI locking configuration we achieved so far.
DARM: POX11_I / gain 0.007 / 0.5*ETMX-0.5*ETMY (or 1*ETMX) / UGF of ~100 Hz
CARM: POY11_I / gain 0.018 / 1*MC2 / UGF of ~200 Hz
MICH: REFL55_Q / gain -10 / 0.5*BS / UGF of ~30 Hz
Transitioning DARM error signal from POX11_I to 0.5*POX11_I+0.5*POY11_I was possible with FM4 filter off in DARM filter bank, but not to AS55_Q yet.
REFL55 and AS55 demodulation phase tuning:
- We found that both AS55 and REFL55 are contaminated by large non-MICH signal, by making a ASDC vs RF plot (see 40m/16929).
- After both arms are locked with POX and POY, MICH was locked with AS55_Q. ASDC was minimized by putting an offset to MICH filter.
- With this, REFL55 offsets were zeroed and demodulation phase was tuned to minimize REFL55_Q.
- Locked MICH with REFL55_Q, and did the same thing for AS55_Q.
- Resulting ASDC vs RF plots were attached. REFL55_Q now looks great, but REFL55_I and AS55 are noisy (due to signals from the arms?).
Jupyter notebook: https://git.ligo.org/40m/scripts/-/blob/main/CAL/MICH/MICHOpticalGainCalibration.ipynb
Sensing matrix:
- With FPMI locked using POX/POY, DARM and CARM lines were injected at around 300 Hz to measure the sensing gains. For line injection, C1:CAL-SENSMAT was used, but for the demodulation we used a script. The following is the result.
Sensors DARM (ETMX) CARM (MC2)
C1:LSC-AS55_I_ERR 3.10e+00 (-34.1143 deg) 1.09e+01 (-14.907 deg)
C1:LSC-AS55_Q_ERR 9.96e-01 (-33.9848 deg) 3.30e+00 (-27.9468 deg)
C1:LSC-REFL55_I_ERR 6.75e+00 (-33.7723 deg) 2.92e+01 (-34.0958 deg)
C1:LSC-REFL55_Q_ERR 7.07e-01 (-33.4296 deg) 3.08e+00 (-33.4437 deg)
C1:LSC-POX11_I_ERR 3.97e+00 (-33.9164 deg) 1.51e+01 (-30.7586 deg)
C1:LSC-POY11_I_ERR 6.25e-02 (-20.3946 deg) 3.59e+00 (38.4207 deg)
Jupyter notebook: https://git.ligo.org/40m/scripts/-/blob/main/CAL/SensingMatrix/MeasureSensMat.ipynb
- By taking the ratios of POX11_I and AS55_Q for DARM, POY11_I and REFL55_I for CARM, we tried to find the correct gains for REFL55 and AS55 for DARM and CARM. x3.96 more gain for AS55_Q than POX11_I and x0.123 less gain for REFL55_I than POY11_I.
Next:
- Try locking the arms with no triggering, and then try locking FPMI with REFL/AS without triggering. No FM4 for this, since FM4 kills gain margin.
- Lock single arm with AS55_Q and make a noise budget. Make sure to misalign ITMX(Y) completely when locking Y(X)arm.
- Lock single arm with REFL55_I and make a noise budget.
- Repeat Xarm noise budget with Yarm locked with POY11_I and MC2 (40m/16975).
- Check IMC to reduce frequency noise (40m/17001) |
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Tue Nov 10 19:25:42 2015 |
gautam | Update | General | FS725 Rubidium reference | In the last few days, with Koji's help, I have recovered both the FS725 Rubidium references from W. Bridge, one from the ATF lab, and one from the CTN lab. Both are back at the 40m at the moment.
However, the one that was recovered from the ATF lab is no longer locking to the Rubidium reference frequency, although it was locked at the time we disconnected it from the ATF lab. I emailed the support staff at SRS, who seem to think that either the internal oscillator has drifted too far, or the Rb lamp is dead. Either ways, it needs to be repaired. They suggested that I run a check by issuing some serial commands to the unit to determine which of these is actually the problem, but I've been having some trouble setting up the serial link - I will try this again tomorrow. I'm also having trouble generating an RMA number that is needed to start the repair/maintenance process, but I've emailed SRS support again and hope to hear back from them soon.
The other FS725, recovered from the CTN lab earlier today, seems to work fine and is locked to the Rb reference at the moment. I plan to redo the calibration of the phase tracker with an 'absolute' frequency reference with the help of the FS725 and out GPS timing unit tomorrow. Once that is done, the working unit can be returned to the CTN lab. |
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Tue Dec 22 16:44:03 2015 |
gautam | Update | General | FS725 Rubidium reference - REPAIRED |
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However, the one that was recovered from the ATF lab is no longer locking to the Rubidium reference frequency, although it was locked at the time we disconnected it from the ATF lab. I emailed the support staff at SRS, who seem to think that either the internal oscillator has drifted too far, or the Rb lamp is dead. Either ways, it needs to be repaired. They suggested that I run a check by issuing some serial commands to the unit to determine which of these is actually the problem, but I've been having some trouble setting up the serial link - I will try this again tomorrow.
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The Rubidium standard we had sent in for repair and recalibration has come back. I checked the following:
- Powered the unit on - it was locked to the internal rubidium reference within a few minutes as prescribed in the manual.
- After it had locked to the internal reference, I checked that it was able to lock to an external 1pps reference from our GPS timing unit- this too was achieved within a few minutes as prescribed in the manual.

However, I am still having trouble setting up a serial communications link with the FS725 with a USB-serial adaptor - I've tried with a Raspberry Pi and my Mac (using screen to try and connect), and also using one of the old Windows laptops lying around on which I was able to install the native software supplied by SRS (still using the USB-serial adaptor to establish connection though). Could it be that the unit is incompatible with the USB-serial adaptor? I had specifically indicated in the repair request that this was also a problem. In any case, this doesn't seem to be crucial, though it would have been nice for diagnostics purposes in the future...
I've stored the repaired FS725 inside the electronics cabinet (marked "Eletronics Modules") for now (the other unit was returned to Antonio in W. Bridge some weeks ago). |
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Wed Oct 4 17:38:25 2017 |
gautam | Update | LSC | FS725 for Marconi stabilization | I've located the Stanford Research FS725 Rb reference unit. The question is where to put it. This afternoon Steve and I put it inside the little electronics rack next to 1X3, but in hindsight, this probably isn't such a great place for a timing reference as there are a bunch of Sorensen power supplies in there (and presumably the accompanying harmonics from these switching supplies).
The unit itself was repaired in 2015, and powering it on, it locked to the internal reference within a few minutes as prescribed in the manual. |
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Thu Oct 5 18:40:27 2017 |
gautam | Update | LSC | FS725 for Marconi stabilization | [steve, gautam]
- We installed the FS725 on the shelf inside the PSL enclosure - see Attachment #1.
- We ran a long BNC cable (labelled "GPS 1pps" on both ends) from 1X7 to the PSL enclosure - this was to pipe the 1PPS signal from the GPS timing unit (EndRun Technologies Tempus LX) rear panel (50 ohm output according to the datasheet) to the 1PPS input of the FS725 (high impedance). See Attachments #2. Note that the 1pps output was already tee'd on the rear panel. One port of the tee was unused (this now goes to the FS725) while the other was going to the 1PPS input of the Master Timing Sequencer (D050239), so I decided that there was no need to tee the 1pps input of the FS725 with a 50ohm terminator. In a few minutes, the Rb standard indicated that it was locked to its internal reference, and also to the external 1pps input (see Attachment #1).
- We ran a long BNC cable (labelled "Rb 10MHz" on both ends) from the 10MHz output of the FS725 (50 ohm output impedance), in the PSL enclosure to the rear BNC "FREQ_STD IN/OUT" BNC connector of the Marconi (1kohm input impedance). Changed the frequency reference setting on the Marconi to "External Direct". The FS725 datasheet recommends terminating the load with a 50ohm inline terminator, I have not yet done this (see Attachment #3). Is it appropriate to use a Balun (FTB-1-1) here? This would avoid ground loops between the Marconi and the FS725, and also make the load seen by the FS725 50ohms.
- Found that there was an unused long cable from the PSL enclosure to the 1X2 electronics rack. We re-purposed this to drive the AOM driver via the DAC output in 1Y2. The cable is labelled "AOM driver" on both ends. This was to facilitate measurement of the coupling of laser intensity noise to AS55_Q in a DRMI lock.
- Removed 2 long cables between 1X7 and 1X2 that weren't connected to anything.
- Re-arranged the DC bench supply on the shelf in the PSL enclosure, whose only purpose seems to be to supply 12V to a fan attached to the rear of the PSL NPRO controller. Seems to be a waste of space! The fan was momentarily disconnected but has since been reconnected and is spinning again.
- Removed a couple of unused power cables from the mess on the shelf in the PSL enclosure. Also removed an unused Sony Video Squential Switcher YS-S6 from the PSL enclosure.
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I've located the Stanford Research FS725 Rb reference unit. The question is where to put it. This afternoon Steve and I put it inside the little electronics rack next to 1X3, but in hindsight, this probably isn't such a great place for a timing reference as there are a bunch of Sorensen power supplies in there (and presumably the accompanying harmonics from these switching supplies).
The unit itself was repaired in 2015, and powering it on, it locked to the internal reference within a few minutes as prescribed in the manual.
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Fri Oct 6 00:25:45 2017 |
rana | Update | LSC | FS725 for Marconi stabilization | Steve, can you please connect this fan to the rack power and remove this extra power supply?
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Re-arranged the DC bench supply on the shelf in the PSL enclosure, whose only purpose seems to be to supply 12V to a fan attached to the rear of the PSL NPRO controller. Seems to be a waste of space! The fan was momentarily disconnected but has since been reconnected and is spinning again.
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Thu Nov 5 02:18:32 2015 |
gautam | Update | LSC | FSR and linewidth measurements with phase tracker | While the ETMx issues are being investigated - with Eric's help, I took some data from arm scans of the Y arm through ~2FSRs using ALS. I've also collected the data from the frequency counter readout during these scans but since they were done rather fast (over 60seconds), I am not sure how accurate this data will be. The idea however is to use the frequency readout from the phase tracker - this has to be linearized though, which I will do during the daytime tomorrow. The plan is to use our GPS timing unit to synchronize the following chain :
GPS timing unit 1PPS out --> FS725 Rb Clock 1PPS in (I recovered one which was borrowed from the 40m some time ago from the ATF lab yesterday evening, waiting for it to lock to the Rb clock now)
FS725 Rb Clock 10 MHz out --> Fluke 6061A 10MHz reference in
FS725 Rb Clock 10 MHz out-->agilent network analyzer 10MHz reference in (for measurement of the frequency of the signal output from the Fluke RF signal generator independent of its front panel display)
Then I plan to look at the phase tracker output as a function of the driving frequency (which will also be measured, offline, using the digital frequency counter setup) over a range of 20 MHz - 50 MHz in steps of 1 MHz. Results to follow.
Earlier tonight, Eric and I tweaked the PMC alignment (the mode cleaner was not staying locked for more than a couple of minutes, for almost an hour). |
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Fri Nov 6 15:56:00 2015 |
gautam | Update | LSC | FSR and linewidth measurements with phase tracker | Summary:
I performed a preliminary calibration of the X and Y phase trackers, and found that the slopes of a linear fit of phase tracker output as a function of driven frequency (as measured with digital frequency counter) are 0.7886 +/- 0.0016 and 0.9630 +/- 0.0012 respectively (see Attachments #1 and #2). Based on this, the EPICS calibration constants have been updated. The data used for calibration has also been uploaded (Attachment #4).
Details:
I found that by adopting the approach I suggested as a fix in elog 11736, and setting a gate time of 1second, I could eliminate the systematic bias in measured frequency I had been seeing, the origin of which is also discussed in elog 11736. This was verified by using a digital oscillator to supply the input to the frequency counting block, and verifying that I could recover the driving frequency without any systematic bias. Therefore, I used this as a measure of the driving frequency independent of the front panel display of the Fluke 6061A.
The actual calibration was done as follows:
- Close PSL green and end green shutters. Turned off the power to the green transmission PDs on the PSL table and disconnected the couplers from their outputs.
- Connected the output of the Fluke 6061A RF signal generator to a splitter, and to the inputs of the couplers for the X and Y signal chains.
- Adjusted the amplitude of the RF signal output until the Q readout of the rotated X and Y outputs were between 1000 and 3000. The final value used was -17dBm. As a qualitative check, I also looked at the beat signal on the spectrum analyzer in the control room and judged the peak height to be roughly the same as that seen when a real beat note was being measured. The phase tracker gains after setting the UGF were ~83 and 40 for the X and Y arms respectively.
- Step through the frequency from 20MHz to 70MHz in steps of 1MHz, and record the outputs of (i) Digital frequency counter readout, and (ii) Phase tracker phase readout for the X and Y arms. I used the z avg -s utility to take an average for 10 seconds, and the standard deviation thus obtained correspond to the errorbars plotted.
- Restore the connections to the green beat PDs and power them on again.
Y-arm transmission scan
I used the information from Attachment #2 to calibrate the X-axis of the Y-arm transmission data I collected on Wednesday evening. Looking at the beat frequency on the analyzer in the control room, between 24 and 47 MHz (green beat frequency, within the range the calibration was done over), we saw three IR resonances. I've marked these peaks, and also the 11MHz sideband resonances, in Attachment #3. It remains to fit the various peaks. I did a quick calculation of the FSR, and the number I got using these 3 peaks is 3.9703 +/- 0.0049 MHz. This value is ~23 kHz greater than that reported in elog 9804, but the error is also ~4 times greater (6 IR resonances were scanned in elog 9804) so I think these measurements are consistent.
Rubidium clock
I had brought an FS725 Rubidium clock back from W Bridge - the idea was to hook this up to the GPS 1PPS output, and use the 10MHz output from the FS725 as the reference for the fluke 6061A. However, the FS725 has not locked to the Rb frequency even though it has been left powered on for ~2days now. Do I have to do something else to get it to lock? The manual says that it should lock within 7 minutes of being powered on. Once this is locked, I can repeat the calibration with an 'absolute' frequency source... |
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Mon Nov 9 11:34:51 2015 |
yutaro | Update | LSC | FSR and linewidth measurements with phase tracker | I fitted the data obtained with the FSR and linewidth measurements and I've got FSR and finesse of y-arm by fitting.
The fitted data and the fitting results are attached.
Summary:
FSR = 3.9704 MHz (ave. of two FSRs, 3.9727 MHz and 3.9681 MHz)
finesse = 401 +/- 11
estimated loss = 1812 (+456 / - 431) ppm
Detail:
I found peaks from the data and fitted each peak by Lorentzian, automatically with Python (the sourse code I used is attached).
3 parameters of Lorentzian for each peak and their fitting errors are attached.
Then, using 3 peaks of carrier resonance, I calculated FSR, finesse, and loss.
The error of finesse came from that of linewidth.
When calculating the loss, I used the value of 1.384 % for transmission of ITMY.
Note:
Since the finesse is mostly determined by the transmission of ITM, the relative error of loss estimation is larger (about 25 % ) though the relative error of finesse is about 3 %. Therefor we have to find the reason why each estimated linewidth varies that largely, and measure finesse more accurately.

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Mon Nov 9 14:24:36 2015 |
yutaro | Update | LSC | FSR and linewidth measurements with phase tracker | I'd like to add a few calculation results, mode matching ratio for Y arm and modulation depth.
Here I assumed peaks marked in the bottom figure shown in elog 11738 as resonances of carrier and modulated sidebands and others as resonances of HOM.
- mode matching ratio = 94.92 +/- 0.19 % WRONG
How I calculated: for each peak of carrier, you can find 6 peaks of HOM resonaces. Then I calculated the sum of the hight of 6 peaks divided by the hight of carrier resonance peak, and took average of this values for 3 resonance peaks of carrier.
- modulation depth = 0.390 +/- 0.062 WRONG
How I calculated: I took average of the hight of 6 peaks of modulated sideband resonance, and normalized it with the hight of peaks of carrier resonance. Using the relation 'normalized hight' = (J_1(m)/J_0(m))^2, I got modulation depth, m.
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Mon Nov 9 15:59:06 2015 |
ericq | Update | LSC | FSR and linewidth measurements with phase tracker |
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- modulation depth = 0.390 +/- 0.062
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There are two modulation frequencies that make it to the arm cavities, at ~11MHz and ~55MHz. Each of these will have their own modulation depth indepedent of each other. Bundling them together into one number doesn't tell us what's really going on. |
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Mon Nov 9 16:58:59 2015 |
gautam | Update | LSC | FSR and linewidth measurements with phase tracker |
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There are two modulation frequencies that make it to the arm cavities, at ~11MHz and ~55MHz. Each of these will have their own modulation depth indepedent of each other. Bundling them together into one number doesn't tell us what's really going on.
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Summary:
As an update to Yutaro's earlier post - I've done an independent study of this data, doing the fitting with MATLAB, and trying to estimate (i) the FSR, (ii) the mode matching efficienct, and (iii) the modulation depths at 11MHz and 55MHz.
The values I've obtained are as follows:
FSR = 3.9704 MHz +/- 17 kHz
Mode matching efficiency = 92.59 % (TEM00 = 1, TEM10 = 0.0325, TEM20 = 0.0475)
Modulation depth at 11MHz = 0.179
Modulation depth at 55MHz = 0.131
Details:
- To approximately locate the TEM10 and TEM20 resonances, I followed the methodology listed here (though confining myself to (m+n) = 1,2).
- To approximately locate the 11 MHz and 55 MHz sidebands, I used the mod command in MATLAB to locate approximately how far they should be from a carrier resonance.
- The results of these first two steps are demonstrated pictorially in Attachment #1. Red = carrier resonance, grey = 55MHz sideband resonance, cyan = 11MHz sideband resonance, green = TEM20 resonance, and yellow = TEM10 resonance.
- The FSR was calculated by fitting the center frequencies of fits to the three carrier resonances with a lorentzian shape, vs their index. The quoted error is the 95% C.I.s generated by MATLAB
- The mode-matching efficiency was calculated by taking the fitted height of Lorentzian shapes to the TEM00, TEM10 and TEM20 shapes. The ratio of the peak heights was taken as a measure of the fraction of total power coupled into the TEM10 and TEM20 modes relative to TEM00. In calculating the final value, I took the average of the 3 available values for each peak to calculate the ratios.
- The modulation depth was calculated by approximating that the ratio
, and solving for . Attachment #2 shows a plot of the RHS of this equation as a function of - the two datatips mark the location of the ratios on the LHS of the equation - both P_c and P_s were averaged over the 3 and 6 values available, respectively. The values I have obtained are different from those cited here - not sure why? The real red flag I guess is that I get the modulation depth at 11MHz to be larger than at 55MHz, whereas elog10211 reports the reverse... Do we expect a resonance for a 44MHz sideband as well? If so, it could be that the two peaks close to the carrier resonance is in fact the 55.30 MHz sideband resonance, and the peaks I've identified as 55MHz sideband resonances are in fact 44MHz sidebands.. If this were true, I would recover the modulation depth for 55.30 MHz sidebands to be approximately 0.22...
Misc Remarks and Conclusions:
- The y-scale in Attachment #1 is log(transmission) - the semilogy command in MATLAB messed up the rendering of the overlaid semi-transparent rectangles, hence the need for adopting this scale...
- I've attached the code used to split the entire scan into smaller datasets centered around each peak, and the actual fitting routine, in Attachment #3. I've not done the error analysis for the mode matching efficiency and the modulation depths, I will update this entry with those numbers as soon as I do.
- In my earlier elog11738, I had mislabelled some peaks as being sideband peaks - attachment #1 in this entry is (I think) a correct interpretation of the various peaks.
- There are two peaks on either side of every carrier resonance, spaced, on average, about 177kHz away from the resonance on either side. I am not sure what the interpretation of this peak should be - are they the 55.30 MHz resonances?
- These values should allow us to carry out alternative measurements of the round trip arm loss as estimating this from the cavity finesse seems to not be the best way to go about this.
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Fri Nov 9 21:36:14 2007 |
rob | Configuration | PSL | FSS | rob, rana
We looked at the FSS a bit today. The most we could get out of it with the gain sliders was a UGF of around 95kHz. After a bit of tweaking the waveplate after the AOM, this got up to ~115kHz. We should be able to get at least 500kHz. This system needs a fair amount of work. |
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Mon Nov 12 15:05:49 2007 |
rob | Configuration | PSL | FSS |
Spent a bit of time fiddling with the FSS again today. In a not-particularly-systematic manner, I raised the input-side of the 21.5MHz PC, adjusted the half-wave plate in front of it, touched up the RC alignment and the alignment onto the transmitted and reflected diodes. This got us a ~15% increase in
transmitted light, and I was able to push the UGF to 140kHz with the common gain slider at 30dB and the FAST gain slider at 22dB. The next options include adjusting the AOM setup, mode matching into the RC, and just increasing the pickoff fraction right from the getgo. |
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Tue Nov 27 20:47:00 2007 |
tobin | Update | PSL | FSS | Rana, Tobin
We looked at the RF PD signal to the FSS (siphoning off a signal via a minicircuits directional coupler) and also took an open loop transfer function of the FSS. In the transfer function we saw the step at 100 kHz (mentioned by Rob) as well as some peculiar behavior at high frequency. The high frequency behavior (with a coupling of ~ -20 dB) turns out to be bogus, as it is still present even with the beam blocked. Rearranging the cabling had no effect; the cause is apparently inside the FSS. The step at 100 kHz turns out to be a saturation effect, as it moved as we lowered the signal amplitude, disappearing as we approached -60 dBm. (Above the step, the measurement data is valid; below, bogus.)
Transfer functions will be attached to this entry.
Some things to check tomorrow: the RF signal to the PC, RF AM generation by the PC, LO drive level into the FSS, RF reflection from the PC, efficiency of FSS optical path, quality of RF cabling. |
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Wed Nov 28 04:21:46 2007 |
rana | Update | PSL | FSS |
Quote: | Rana, Tobin
We looked at the RF PD signal to the FSS (siphoning off a signal via a minicircuits directional coupler) and also took an open loop transfer function of the FSS. In the transfer function we saw the step at 100 kHz (mentioned by Rob) as well as some peculiar behavior at high frequency. The high frequency behavior (with a coupling of ~ -20 dB) turns out to be bogus, as it is still present even with the beam blocked. Rearranging the cabling had no effect; the cause is apparently inside the FSS. The step at 100 kHz turns out to be a saturation effect, as it moved as we lowered the signal amplitude, disappearing as we approached -60 dBm. (Above the step, the measurement data is valid; below, bogus.)
Transfer functions will be attached to this entry.
Some things to check tomorrow: the RF signal to the PC, RF AM generation by the PC, LO drive level into the FSS, RF reflection from the PC, efficiency of FSS optical path, quality of RF cabling. |
I would also add to Tobin's entry that we believe what Rob was seeing was saturation.
With the bi-directional coupler in there, the RF signal into the FSS board clearly went UP if moved the offset slider away from zero.
With a scope looking at the IN2 testpoint, we can see that there's less than 2 mV offset at zero slider offset.
One tangential thing we noticed with the coupler is that, in lock, the amount of reflected RF is around the same as that going in to the mixer.
I have always wanted to look at this but have only had uni-directional couplers in the past. I think that the double balanced mixer is inherently
not a 50 Ohm device during the times where the diodes are being switched. IF that's the case we might do better in the future by having an RF
buffer on board just before the mixer to isolate the PD head from these reflections. |
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Thu Jul 24 21:04:58 2008 |
rana | Update | PSL | FSS | Since Jenne and Yoichi are going to finish up their refcav/FSS work in the morning I decided to
look at the trends. I set the RF modulation level from 10.0 back down to 7.5 so that we would
have the same RF modulation depth as before. I also set the FSS common gain and its nominal to
1.0 dB since it seemed more stable this way.
With 7.5, the transmission of the refcav is ~6.9 V. It was around 0.7 V before so there's already
been a factor of 10 improvement in the power since the work started. In addition to the mode matching
work which is about to commence, we should attenuate the RC TRANS with a real mirror (not ND) so that
the camera and PD don't saturate. We should also do the same for the REFL PD and camera and make sure
to put in a steering mirror for the REFL PD and orient REFL so that it faces West (so that we can
look at its face with a viewer) and dumps its reflection.
Since the common gain is so low now, I expect that we will want less light in total. We can achieve
this by turning down the RF drive to the VCO.
I also fixed the MC down script which was putting the FSS common gain to the unstable +10 dB level
during the MC locking process. |
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Thu Oct 11 12:02:15 2012 |
Den | Update | IOO | FSS | FSS SLOW control did not drift during the lock at night with MCL path working and AC coupled.

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Tue Sep 2 07:58:34 2008 |
rana | Summary | PSL | FSS & PMC LO trends for 2 years | The attached plot is a 2 year minute trend of the EPICS readback of the PMC & FSS LO Monitors (FSS_LODET & PMC_LODET).
Clearly the FSS LO has been dying for at least 2 years. The step up from 10 months
ago is probably when Rob removed a 3dB attenuator from in front of the box. |
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Mon Sep 13 19:41:38 2010 |
rana | Update | PSL | FSS AOM alignment | The IR sensitive Olympus 570 camera gives us a really nice view of these IR beams. Its actually a lot better than what you can get with the analog IR viewers:
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Wed Sep 1 11:34:39 2010 |
Alberto | Update | Electronics | FSS Box Phase Noise from DAQ | I measured the phase noise of the LO output of the FSS box from the DAQ. I'm attaching the results.
As we expected, the measurement is limited by the internal phase noise of the Marconi.

The measurement was done as shown in this diagram.

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Wed Sep 1 12:34:14 2010 |
rana | Update | Electronics | FSS Box Phase Noise from DAQ | The differences between this setup and the one used previously is the lack of the 50 Ohm terminator in the mixer output and
that the SR560 readout with the G=100 should come before the first SR560 via T, so as not to be spoiled by the high noise of the G=1 SR560. |
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Wed Sep 1 16:29:28 2010 |
Alberto | Update | Electronics | FSS Box Phase Noise from DAQ - Measurement setup modified |
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The differences between this setup and the one used previously is the lack of the 50 Ohm terminator in the mixer output and
that the SR560 readout with the G=100 should come before the first SR560 via T, so as not to be spoiled by the high noise of the G=1 SR560.
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I removed the 50 Ohm in-line terminator when I did the measurement with the SR785. The for some reason I was getting more noise, so I removed it.
Now I put it back in and I did the measurement with the DAQ. I also moved the SR560 that amplifies the signal for the DAQ, Tee'ing it with the input of the in-loop SR560.
Now the setup looks like this:

And the phase noise that I measure is this:

Comparing it with the phase noise measured with the previous setup (see entry 3506), you can see that the noise effectively is reduced by about a factor of 2 above 10 Hz.

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Wed Sep 1 17:17:42 2010 |
rana | Update | Electronics | FSS Box Phase Noise from DAQ - Measurement setup modified | With the setup now working, we should now test the power filtering for the crystal and amplifier. |
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Tue Sep 2 14:28:41 2008 |
Yoichi | Update | PSL | FSS EOM driving signal spectra | Rich advised me to change the +10V input of the FSS crystal frequency reference board from whatever voltage supply we use now to a nice one.
This voltage is directory connected to the signal lines of both LO and RF output amps. Therefore, fluctuations in the voltage directly appear
in the outputs, though DC components are cut off by the AC coupling capacitors.
I changed the source of this voltage from the existing Sorensen one to a power supply sitting next to the rack.
The attached plots shows the difference of the RF output spectra between the two 10V sources.
The low frequency crap is almost gone in the new 10V spectrum.
I tried to increase the FSS gain with the new 10V, but still it goes crazy. I suspect it is because the LO power is too low. |
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Thu Jul 10 02:09:20 2014 |
Jenne | Update | PSL | FSS Fast gain set | I have put in a new nominal value for the FSS fast gain: 21.5 dB.
There is an oscillation peak in the MC error point spectra around 41.5 kHz if the FSS gain is set too high. I used the 4395 to have a look at the MC error point, and saw that if I set the FSS fast gain any lower than about 18 dB, the peak wasn't getting any smaller than -41 dBm. If I set the fast gain any higher than about 26 dB the peak wouldn't get any larger than about -34 dBm.
However, if I set the gain to 19.5dB, the PC RMS drive is consistently above 2 V, which isn't so good. If I crank the gain up to 27 dB or more, the PC RMS will stay below 0.9 V, which is great.
As a compromise, I have decided on 21.5 dB as the new FSS fast gain. This puts the oscillation peak at about -39.5 dBm, and the PC RMS around 1.6 V.
I changed the nominal gain by ezcawrite C1:PSL-STAT_FSS_NOM_F_GAIN 21.5 . This sets the nominal value so that the FSS screen's fast slider doesn't turn red at the new value. And, since the MC autolocker reads this epics channel and puts that into the gain during the mcup script, the MC autolocker now uses this new gain. For reference, it used to be set to 23.5 dB. |
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Tue Aug 31 17:58:38 2010 |
Alberto | Update | Electronics | FSS Frequency Generation Box - Phase Noise | A few weeks ago, on Jul 24, Rana and I measured the phase noise of the FSS frequency box (aka the 'Kalmus Box'). See elog entry 3286.
That time, for some reason, we measured a phase noise higher than we expected; higher than that of the Marconi.
I repeated the measurement today using the SR785 spectrum analyzer. Here is the result:

(The measurement of July 24 on the plot was not corrected for the loop gain. The UGF was at about 30 Hz)
To make sure that my measurement procedure was correct, I also measured the combined phase noise of two Marconis. I then confirmed the consistency of that with what already measured by other people in the past (i.e. Rana elog entry 823 in the ATF elog).
This time the noise seemed reasonable; closer to the Marconi's phase noise, as we would expect. I don't know why it was so bad on July 24.
The shoulder in the Marconi-to-Marconi measurement between 80Hz and 800Hz is probably due to the phase noise of the other Marconi, the one used as LO.
I'm going to repeat the measurement connecting the setup to the DAQ, and locking the Marconi to the Rubidium standard.
Ultimately, the goal is to measure the phase noise of the new Sideband Frequency Generation Box of the 40m Upgrade. |
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Sat Aug 28 08:17:51 2010 |
Aberto | Update | Electronics | FSS Frequency Generation Box under test | I've taken the FSS frequency generation box out of the 1Y1 rack. It's sitting on one of the electronics benches. I'm measuring its phase noise. |
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Wed Jun 25 18:03:21 2008 |
Yoichi | Configuration | PSL | FSS Input Offset slider problem | While working on the PMC scanning, I noticed that the FSS input offset slider is doing nothing.
I traced the signal flow and checked the cables/boards.
The slider changes the output voltage from a VMIVME4116 DAC in the PSL rack. This output voltage is confirmed to be correct at the FLKM64 connector. The signal is connected to the FSS servo interface box (D040423) trough a ribbon cable. However, the output from the interface box is always -27V regardless of the slider position.
Therefore, either the interface box (D040423) or the ribbon cable has a problem.
I will debug the interface box using an extension card when no one is working on the interferometer. |
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Thu Oct 23 20:47:28 2008 |
pete | Configuration | PSL | FSS LO calibration for MEDM | Today I took a quick series of measurements to calibrate the FSS LO power measurement in the MEDM. This was done by using the spec.an. to measure the 21.5 MHz peak in dBm at the LO input to the FSS box on the PSL table, and recording the MEDM value, for attenuations applied at the FSS REF box output ranging from -5 dBm to -30 dBm.
I measured the loss due to the BNC cable I used, which was (19.66-19.50) dBm. I accounted for this and plotted ln(MEDM) vs. dBm on the attached plot. A linear fit of this gives the CALC field of a calc record for the IOC db:
6.29*LOGE(A)+5.36
Since no one knew how to do this nonlinear conversion in EPICS I will describe how to do it in detail tomorrow. It is simple, although it requires power cycling the scipe3 bunch (typing "reboot" or "ctl-x" at the command prompt took it down, but it did not come back). I did power cycle those computers a few times today. |
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Fri Oct 24 11:21:26 2008 |
pete | Configuration | PSL | FSS LO input calibrated in dBm | Based on the measurements described in my previous elog, I created a new calc record in the file /cvs/cds/caltech/target/c1psl/psl.db
grecord(calc, "C1:PSL-FSS_LOCALC")
{
field(INPA,"C1:PSL-FSS_LODET")
field(SCAN,".1 second")
field(PREC,"4")
field(CALC,"6.29*LOGE(A)+5.36")
}
After restarting scipe3 to load this change, I told C1PSL_FSS.adl to look at this record instead of *LODET. That MEDM screen now shows LO input calibrated in dBm.
For reference, the operators available for use in the CALC field are listed in the EPICS Record ref manual, Chapter 9. The manual can be found here:
http://www.aps.anl.gov/epics/EpicsDocumentation/AppDevManuals/RecordRef/Recordref-3.html
Yoichi said he was fixing an SVN problem, so I have not yet committed the two files I changed: /cvs/cds/caltech/target/c1psl/psl.db and /cvs/cds/caltech/medm/c1/psl/C1PSL_FSS.adl. |
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Thu Mar 26 04:01:24 2009 |
Yoichi | Update | PSL | FSS Open Loop Gain | Yoichi, Peter, Jenne
Attached is the open loop transfer function of the FSS as of today with the common gain = 12dB and the fast gain = 16dB.
The UGF is only 250kHz. If we increase the common gain, the PC goes crazy. Exactly the same symptom as before I fixed the oscillating op-amp.
I wanted to check the cross over frequency but there is no excitation point in the fast path nor PC path. Therefore, it is not easy. |
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Sat Jul 24 14:03:19 2010 |
Alberto | Update | Electronics | FSS Oscilaltor Phase Noise Measurement | [Rana, Alberto]
Today we measured the phase noise of the oscillator used for the FSS.
The source is a Wenzel crystal at about 21.5MHz that Peter Kalmus built some time ago.
We basically used the same technique that Frank and Megan have been using lately to measure the Marconi's phase noise.
Today we just did a quick measurement but today next week we are going to repeat it more carefully.
Attached is a plot that shows the measurement calibrated for a UGF at about 60 Hz. The noise is compared to that specified by Wenzel for their crystal.
The noise is bigger than that of the MArconi alone locked to the Rubidium standard (see elog entry). We don't know the reason for sure yet.
We'll get back to this problem next week. |
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Sat Jul 24 14:27:36 2010 |
rana | Update | Electronics | FSS Oscilaltor Phase Noise Measurement | I reconnected the RF signal to the FSS and to the FSS' EOM so that we could lock the refcav again.
I then started a 3 sec. period trianglewave on the AOM drive amplitude to see if there is a direct coupling from RIN to Frequency. Ideally we will be able to measure this by looking at the RCTRANS and the FSS-FAST. |
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Tue Oct 21 17:52:30 2008 |
rana | Summary | PSL | FSS Photo: early October | This is a photo of the FSS board before Yoichi did his surgery - it was taken with the D40 in macro mode, sitting on the big Gorilla pod. |
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Wed Jul 23 01:42:26 2008 |
rana | Configuration | PSL | FSS RFPD: Examined, "repaired", and re-installed | Rob said that there might be something wrong with the FSS RFPD since the loop gain is so low.
Next time we should just use the Jenne laser on it in-situ and compare with our reference.
We had a 24.5 MHz LSC PD which Rob got from Sam. Sam got it from Rai. I gave it to Rai in Livingston
because it seemed suspicious. Seems fine now. This black box PD had a lower overall response than
the goldbox one we already had. The 2001-2005 era diodes which we got from the Canadian Perkin-Elmer
all had high capacitance and so that's not a surprise.
So the goldbox one was not broken totally.
I found that the offset came from a cracked capacitor. C25 was a yellow thru-hole ceramic 0.1 uF.
Its a surface mount board...don't know why this was like this but there's also no reason it should
have cracked unless it was soldered on with too much heat. I replaced it with a 0.47 uF ceramic
surface mount. Also R24 was a 20 Ohm resistor and L3 was not stuffed?? Removed R24 and put a 1 uH
inductor into L3. This is there so that the input to the MAX4107 is AC coupled.
However, the DC signal that Rob saw was actually because of the cracked C25. It had shorted and was
making a 25 mV signal at the input to the MAX4107 which has a gain of 10. This was producing ~165 mVdc
into a 50 Ohm load and so it could have saturated most mixers. The FSS board, however, has an overly
monstrous level 21 (I think) mixer and so this should not have been an issue. Maybe.
I was able to lock with the 24.5 MHz black box PD but it was not too hard to repair the gold box one
so I did. I tuned it so that the notch is truly at 43 MHz (2x the FSS 21.5 MHz modulation) but because
someone has done this using a hacky cap in parallel with the main PD, I am unable to get the resonant
peak to line up at 21.5 MHz. Its at 23 MHz instead. This loses us ~2 dB in signal. Since the frequency
is so low, we can increase the gain in the MAX4107 by another factor of 3 or so in the future.
So the PD is not our problem. Still worth verifying that the cable is good -- its around 10 miles long!!
And loops around in there with a bunch of other cables. We have an electronic phase shifter so this seems
totally misguided.
The other bad problem is that the mode matching is pretty horrible. Something like 1/3 of the carrier
power doesn't go into the cavity.
FSS TODO:
1) Check cable between RFPD and FSS box for quality. Replace with a good short cable.
2) Using a directional coupler, look at the RFPD output in lock on a scope with 50 Ohm term.
I suspect its a lot of harmonics because we're overmodulating to compensate for the bad
mode matching.
3) Purchase translation stages for the FSS mode matching lenses. Same model as the PMC lenses.
Fix the mode matching.
4) Get the shop to build us up some more bases for the RFPDs on the PSL such as we have for the LSC.
Right now they're on some cheesy Delrin pedestals. Too soft...
5) Dump the beam reflected off the FSS RFPD with a little piece of black glass or a razor dump.
Anodized aluminum is no good and wiggles too much.
The attached PDF shows photos of the old and new style PDs. One page 3 there's a wire that I soldered on
as a handle so that we can remove the RF can (occasionally people claim that soldering to the lid screws
up the magnetic shielding magic of the lid. use this as a litmus test of their electronics know-how; its
a tin can - not an orgone box). Pages 4 & 5 are the circuit before I soldered, page 6 the cap after I
tried to remove it, page 7 is the circuit after I put in the new cap, and page 8 is the schematic with
the mark up of the changes. |
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Thu May 28 17:00:04 2015 |
Koji | Update | IOO | FSS SLOW not engaged: is this intentional? | I found that FSS SLOW servo is not engaged. Is this intentional test to keep the NPRO temp constant?
This is making the FSS Fast unhappy (~ -7.5V right now). |
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Thu May 28 17:12:32 2015 |
ericq | Update | IOO | FSS SLOW not engaged: is this intentional? | Yes, I had turned it off while looking for the PSL/X AUX beat, and forgot to turn it back on.
I will post an elog with more detail this evening, but I found a temperature which restored the X green beatnote at its nominal amplitude (-30dBm) with no mode hops within +-1 IR beat GHz, and offloaded the slow offset slider to the X-end laser crystal dial. I will look for the Y beatnote after dinner.
Currently the control room analyzer is hooked up to recieve the Y IR and green beats; no X signals. |
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Fri Nov 11 20:01:56 2022 |
rana | Frogs | Computer Scripts / Programs | FSS SLOW servo not running | I was trying to debug why the NPRO PZT is all over the place, and it turns out that the new FSS SLOW script is not actually running.
The BLINKY is blinking, but the script is not running. I wasn't able to figure out how to kill the broken Docker thing, but if the code reports that its running but actually does not, we should probably just put back the old perl or python script that ran before. I don't know how to debug this current issue, but the IMC locks will be limited in length due to this servo being broken. Whoever knows about this, please stop that Docker PID and we can just run the old python script on megatron.
I also tried to post a trend plot, but the minute trends don't yet reach the current date (!!!). They seem to have stopped recording a few days ago, so I guess the Framebuilder still needs some help or its tough to figure out things like when exactly the new SLOW servo stopped working. |
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Fri Nov 11 20:59:13 2022 |
Chris | Frogs | Computer Scripts / Programs | FSS SLOW servo not running | The problem with trends was due to the epics data collection process (standalone_edc) that runs on c1sus. When all the FEs were rebooted earlier this week, this process was started automatically, but for some reason it hasn’t been doing its thing and sending epics data to the framebuilder. I restarted it just now, and it’s working again. Until this problem is sorted out, we need to remember to check on this process after rebooting c1sus.
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I also tried to post a trend plot, but the minute trends don't yet reach the current date (!!!). They seem to have stopped recording a few days ago, so I guess the Framebuilder still needs some help or its tough to figure out things like when exactly the new SLOW servo stopped working.
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