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Entry  Wed Dec 23 16:34:25 2009, Koji, Update, IOO, MCT QPD/MC REFL QPD disabled 
    Reply  Thu Dec 24 19:13:29 2009, Koji, Update, IOO, MCT QPD investigation D990692.png
       Reply  Sun Dec 27 23:44:59 2009, rana, Update, Electronics, MCT QPD investigation 
          Reply  Mon Dec 28 01:17:01 2009, Koji, Update, Electronics, MCT QPD investigation 
Message ID: 2451     Entry time: Thu Dec 24 19:13:29 2009     In reply to: 2448     Reply to this: 2454
Author: Koji 
Type: Update 
Category: IOO 
Subject: MCT QPD investigation 

I found that MCT QPD has a dependence of the total output on the position of the spot. Since the QPD needs the supply and bias voltages from the sum/diff amp, I could not separate the problems of the QPD itself and the sum/diff amplifier by the investigation on Tuesday. On Wednesday, I investigated a generic quad photodiode interface module D990692.

...I was so disappointed. This circuit was left uninvestigated and used so long time with the following sorrowful conditions.
- This circuit has 4 unbuffered inputs with input impedance of 300~400 Ohm. It's way too low!
- Moreover, those channels have different input impedances. Ahhhh.
- Even worse, the QPD circuit D990272 has output impedance of 50 Ohm.
- The PCB of this circuit has four layers. It is quite difficult to make modifications of the signal route.
- It is a headache: this circuit is "generic" and used in many places.

D990692 has 4 channel inputs that are not buffered. Each channel has two high impedance buffers but they are used only for the monitors. The signal paths have no buffer.

The differential amplifier is formed by R=1k Ohm. The inverted side of the input has 1kOhm impedance. The non-inverted side has 1.5kOhm impedance.

CH1: 10K // 1.5k // 1.5k // 1k = 411 Ohm
CH2: 10K // 1.5k // 1k // 1k = 361 Ohm
CH3: 10K // 1k // 1k // 1k = 323 Ohm
CH4: 10K // 1k // 1.5k // 1k = 361 Ohm

Considering the output impedance of 50Ohm for the QPD, those too low input impedances result in the following effect:
- Because of the voltage division, we suffer absolute errors of 10.8~13.4%. This is huge.
- Because of the input impedance differences, we suffer a relative error of 1.5%~3%. This is also huge.

Unfortunately, the circuit has no room to modify; the signal paths are embedded in the internal layer.

I decided to replace the resistors of the sum/diff amps from 1k to 10k. Also the input impedance of the buffer was removed as the input is terminated by the sum/diff amps in any case.This changes the input inpedance to the followings:

CH1: 15k // 15k // 10k = 4286 Ohm
CH2: 15k // 10k // 10k = 3750 Ohm
CH3: 10k // 10k // 10k = 3333 Ohm
CH4: 10K // 15k // 10k = 3750 Ohm

These yield the absolute error of 1.2-1.5%. The relative error is now 0.3%. I can accept these numbers, but later I should put additional terminating resistors to compensate the differencies.

So far I have modified the resistors for the MCT as the modification for a QPD needs 17 10k resistors.
Next thing I have to check is the dependence of the QPD outputs on the spot positions.


Edit: Feb 11, 2010

I talked with Frank and he pointed out that the impedances are not the matter but the gains of the each channels are the matters (after considering the output impedance of the QPD channels).
If we assume the ideal voltage sources at the QPD and the symmetric output impedances of 50Ohm, the gain of the each circuit are affected but the change should be symmetric.

He found that several things:
- The analog switch (MAX333) used in the QPD unit adds more output impedance (somewhat randomly!).
- The resistance of the sum/diff circuits may vary each other unless we use 0.1% resistors.


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