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Entry  Tue Mar 1 16:01:14 2022, Paco, Update, Electronics, RFSoC 2x2 board -- setup for remote work & BALUN saga balun_adc1.pngPXL_20220302_001734121.jpg
    Reply  Thu Apr 7 20:33:42 2022, Tommy, Update, Electronics, RFSoC 2x2 board -- setup for remote work 
    Reply  Fri Apr 8 16:03:58 2022, rana, Update, Electronics, RFSoC 2x2 board -- setup for remote work & BALUN saga 
       Reply  Wed Apr 20 14:56:06 2022, Tommy, Update, Electronics, RFSoC 2x2 board -- setup for remote work & BALUN saga 
Message ID: 16790     Entry time: Wed Apr 20 14:56:06 2022     In reply to: 16767
Author: Tommy 
Type: Update 
Category: Electronics 
Subject: RFSoC 2x2 board -- setup for remote work & BALUN saga 

Here are a few options for replacement BALUNs from Mini Circuits and specs:

Current. TCM1-83X+, 10-8000 MHz, 50 Ohms, Impedance Ratio 1, Configuration K

1. Z7550-..., DC-2500 MHz (some DC-2300), 50/75 Ohms, Impedance Ratio 1.5, Configuration Q. There are various types of the Z7550 which have different connectors (SMA and BNCs). These have much larger dimensions than the TCM1-83X. Can handle up to 5A DC current with matching loss 0.6 dB.

2. SFMP-5075+, DC-2500 MHz, 50/75 Ohms, Impedance Ratio 1.5, Configuration D. This is an SMA connected BALUN. It can handle 350mA, has a matching loss 0.4 dB, and has 1W power handling.

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Seems like it should be possible to just remove the transformer (aka as a BALUN ... BALanced, UNbalanced), or replace it with a lower frequency part. Its just a usual mini-circuits part. Maybe you can ask Chris Stoughton about this and ask Tommy to checkout some of the RFSoC user forums for how to go to DC.

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After fiddling around with the tone-generators and spectrum analyzer tools in loopback configuration (DAC --> ADC direct connection), we noticed that lower frequency (~ 1 MHz) signals were hardly making it out/back into the board... so we looked at some of the schematics found here and saw that both RF data converters (ADC & DAC) interfaces are AC coupled through a BALUN network in the 10 - 8000 MHz band (see Attachment #1). This is in principle not great news if we want to get this board ready for audio-band DSP.

We decided that while Tommy works on measuring TFs for SHP-200 all the way up to ~ 2 GHz (which is possible with the board as is) I will design and put together an analog modulation/demodulation frontend so we can upconvert all our "slow" signals < 1MHz for fast, wideband DSP. and demodulate them back into the audio band. The BALUN network is pictured in Attachment #2 on the board, I'm afraid it's not very simple to bypass without damaging the PCB or causing some other unwanted effect on the high-speed DSP.

 

model_no case_style single2single single2bal bal2bal center_tap dc_iso freq_low freq_high impedance imped_ratio interface tech config
SFMP-5075+ FF1891 Y N N N N DC 2500 50/75 1.5 CON CORE & WIRE D
TCM1-83X+ DB1627 N Y Y N N 10 8000 50 1 SMT CORE & WIRE K
Z7550-BFNF+ H795-14 Y N N N N DC 2500 50/75 1.5 CON CORE & WIRE Q
Z7550-BMBF+ QP1876-1 Y N N N N DC 2300 50/75 1.5 CON CORE & WIRE D1
Z7550-BMNF+ QP1876 Y N N N N DC 2500 50/75 1.5 CON CORE & WIRE Q
Z7550-FFNM+ H795-1 Y N N N N DC 2300 50/75 1.5 CON CORE & WIRE Q
Z7550-FFSF+ H557-1 Y N N N N DC 2500 50/75 1.5 CON CORE & WIRE Q
Z7550-FMSF+ H795-3 Y N N N N DC 2300 50/75 1.5 CON CORE & WIRE Q
Z7550-FMSFDC+ H795-3 Y N N N Y 1 2500 50/75 1.5 CON CORE & WIRE Q
Z7550-NFNF+ H795-10 Y N N N N DC 2500 50/75 1.5 CON CORE & WIRE D1
Z7550-NMNF+ H795-4 Y N N N N DC 2300 50/75 1.5 CON CORE & WIRE Q
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