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Thu Jul 24 01:04:01 2008 |
rob | Configuration | LSC | IFR2023A (aka MARCONI) settings |
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P.S.: We made a test by changing the frequency of the local oscillator by a little bit and then coming back to the original value. We observed that the phase of the signal can change, so every time this frequency is moved the 3f demod phase need to be retuned.
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We discovered this little tidbit in March, and remembered it tonight. Basically we found that whenever you change the frequency on one of these signal generators (and maybe any other setting as well), the phase of the signal can change (it's probably just the sign, but still...), meaning that you when you return settings to their intial value, not everything is exactly as it once was. For most applications, this doesn't matter. For us, where we use one Marconi to demodulate the product of two other Marconis, it means we can easily cause a great deal of grief for ourselves, as the demod phase for the double demod signals can appear to change.
Programmatically, what this means is that every time you touch a Marconi you must elog it. Especially if you change a setting and then put it back. |
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Thu May 5 17:05:31 2022 |
Tega | Update | BHD | IMC & X/Y-arm alignment |
[Yuta, Tega]
In order to setup POP camera and RFPD on the ITMX table, we decided to first work on the IMC and X/Y-arm alignment.
IMC alignment:
We zeroed IMC WFS outputs and aligned IMC manually to get IMC transmission of 1200 and reflection of 0.35.
Y-arm alignment:
We used the new video game tool that moves the pairs of mirrors - PR3 & ETMY, ITMY & ETMY - in common and differential modes. This brought the Y-arm flashing to 0.8. Note that we used the _OFFSET bias values for PR3 & ETMY alignment instead of the _COMM bias values.
X-arm alignment:
We repeated the same procedure of moving the pairs of mirrors - BS & ETMX, ITMX & ETMX - in common and differential modes but manually this time. This brought the X-arm flashing to ~1.0. |
Attachment 1: IFO_aligment_Y_locking_on.png
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Thu Oct 13 23:25:22 2022 |
rana | Update | IMC | IMC ASC: summary pages and notes |
Tega has kindly made a summary page for the IMC WFS. Its in a tab on the usual summary pages.
One thing I notice is that the feedback to MC2 YAW seems to have very little noise. What's up with that?
The output matrix (attached) shows that the WFS have very little feedback to MC2 in YAW, but normal feedback in PIT. Has anyone recalculated this output matrix in the past ~1-2 years?
I'm going to read Prof. Izumi's paper (https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.02703) to get some insight.

The output matrix doesn't seem to have any special thing to make this happen. Any ideas on what this could be?
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Attachment 1: Screen_Shot_2022-10-14_at_3.19.43_PM.png
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Thu Oct 13 23:52:45 2022 |
Koji | Update | IMC | IMC ASC: summary pages and notes |
The output matrices have been calculated on Aug 4, 2022 by me. [40m ELOG 17060]
Regarding the noise see [40m ELOG 17061]
With regard to the current IMC WFS design, a SURF student in 2014 (Andres Medina) and Nick Smith made the revision.
The telescope design was described in the elogs [40m ELOG 10410] [40m ELOG 10427] and also T1400670. |
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Tue Jul 30 20:11:12 2019 |
rana | Summary | IMC | IMC ASC: thoughts and hopes |
One of the biggest challenges in LIGO is reducing the alignment control noise. If you haven't worked on it for at least a few years, it probably seems like a trivial problem. But all versions of LIGO since 2001 have been limited by ASC noise below ~50 Hz.
I think the 40m IMC is a good testbed for us to try a few approaches towards mitigating this noise in LIGO. The following is a list of steps to take to get there:
- Using step responses and TF measurements, characterize the full existing system: SISO loop shapes, cross-couplings, and how diagnonal is the input and output matrices of the WFS. In principle, since we have 2 WFS in reflection and 1 DC QPD in the MC2 transmission, we should have full sensing of all angular DoFs.
- Check the correct operation of the WFS heads and the whole RF chain. We want the gains in the system to be such that either the shot noise or the RF electronics noise of the head is the limiting broadband noise in the system.
- Balancing the gains and phases of the demodulated signals is tricky, because we have no good reference. Should we use the JenneAM laser or the PSL beam?
- Estimate the coupling from the angular feedback signal to the IMC length noise using (1) sine wave injections for linear coupling, and (2) broadband noise for nonlinear coupling.
- We think the bilinear noise is due to the beam spot motion modulating the angle to length coupling as sensed by the laser beam. If this is true, we can increase the low frequency gain to minimize the beam spot motion (is this true?).
- By sinusoidally driving the mirror angles we can measure the instantaneous beam spot positions. We can then derive the matrix required to convert from our angular sensors (WFS + QPD) into beam spot motion. We should modify our IMC-WFS real-time model to give us DAQ channels which are beam spot estimators.
- Build a simulation of an IMC which has WFS, QPD, shot noise, and seismic noise.
- Use our optimal linear-feedback design tools to make Angular loops which minimize the bilinear noise coupling.
- Build a nonlinear controller (neural networks: dense + CNN) that outperforms the linear one by estimating the beam spot motion continuously and driving the cavity length to cancel the angle-to-length noise.
I think that steps 1-6 are well within our existing experience, but we should do it anyway so as to reduce the IMC beam motion at low frequencies, and also to reduce the 10-100 Hz frequency noise as seen by the rest of the interferometer.
Steps 7-8 are medium hard, but we can get some help from the CSWG in tackling it.
Step is pretty tough, but I would like to try it and also get some help from MLWG and CSWG to address it. |
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Mon Sep 25 15:32:57 2023 |
JC | Update | IOO | IMC Alignment After C1Sus2 Crash This Morning |
[Paco, Murtaza, JC]
Fixed C1SUS2 Crash from this morning
What we did:
- Attempt to restart only C1SUS2
- Restart All Machines and Burt Restored to Friday @ 7:19 pm
Summary:
Entering this morning, We were unsure why we were having issues aligning and come to find out that C1SUS2 crashed. Paco attempted to restore by restarted the machine individually and restoring, while this did turn all the machines green on the CDS.MEDM Screen, it did not resolve the issue. So moving forward, please keep in mind that EVEN IF ALL MACHINES SHOW GREEN, OPTICS MAY STILL NOT BE DAMPING.
Next we continued to restart and reboot the old fashioned way.
I attempted to use the ./restartAllModels.sh script in the "/opt/rtcds/caltech/c1/Git/40m/scripts/cds" directory, but there was an error and the message I got said something along the lines of "Restart medm screen and try again". This was weird and all of the machines were already shutdown. So, to bring them back up, I used the ./startAllModels.sh script. When starting up, i was prompted to provide a burtrestore directory, and I inputted /opt/rtcds/caltech/c1/burt/autoburt/snapshots/2023/Sep/22/20:19.
This worked out and IMC came back to nominal alignment. The primary issue we seem to be coming across now is that C1:IOO-WFS2_PIT_OUTPUT is increasing at a steady rate and this is disrupting our alignment. |
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Fri Feb 10 18:21:21 2017 |
gautam | Update | IMC | IMC Demod board |
Rana and I spent some time looking at the IMC demod board earlier today. I will post the details shortly, but there was a label on the front panel which said that the nominal LO level to the input should be -8dBm. The new 29.5MHz routing scheme meant that the LO board was actually being driven at 0dBm (that too when the input to the RF distribution box was attenuated by 5dB).
An elog search revealed this thread, where Koji made some changes to the demod board input attenuators. Rana commented that it isn't a good idea to have the LO input be below 0dBm, so after consulting with Koji, we decided that we will
- Remove the 5dB attenuator to the input of the distribution box such that the LO is driven at ~5dBm
- Remove the input 10dB attenuator, first ERA-5SM amplifier, and the mini circuits power splitter from the demod board (schematic to follow).
After implementing these changes, and testing the board with a Marconi on the workbench, I found that the measured power levels (measured with an active FET probe) behave as expected, up till the ERA-5SM immediately prior to the LO (U4 and U6 on the schematic). However, the power after this amplifier (i.e. the input to the on-circuit LO, Minicircuits JMS-1H, which we want to be +17dBm), is only +16dBm. The input to these ERA-5SMs, which are only ~2years old, is -2dBm, so with the typical gain of +20dB, I should have 18dBm at their output. Moreover, increasing the input power to the board from the Marconi doesn't linearly increase the output from the ERA-5SM. Just in case, I replaced one of the ERA-5SMs, but observed the same behaviour, even though the amplifier shouldn't be near saturation (the power upstream of the ERA-5SM does scale linearly).
This needs to be investigated further, so I am leaving the demod board pulled out for now... |
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Fri Feb 10 19:32:15 2017 |
Koji | Update | IMC | IMC Demod board |
The input impedance of the mixer is not constant. As the diode switches, it changes dynamically. Because of this, the waveform of the LO at the mixer input (i.e. the amplifier output) is not sinusoidal. Some of the power goes away to harmonic frequencies. Also, your active probe is calibrated to measure the power across the exact 50Ohm load, which is not in this case. The real confirmation can be done by swapping the mixer with a 50Ohm resistor. But it is too much. Just confirm the power BEFORE the amp is fine. +/-1dB does not change the mixer function much.
Instead, we should measure
- Orthogonality
- Gain imbalance
of the I/Q output. This can be checked by supplying an RF signal that is 100~1kHz away from the LO frequency and observe I&Q outputs. |
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Tue Nov 8 10:35:26 2022 |
Anchal | Update | SUS | IMC F2A test |
This time the test was succesful but I have reverted MC3 f2a filters back to with Q=3, 7, and 10. The inital part of the test is still useful though. I'm attaching amplitude spectral density curves for WFS control points and C1:IOO-MC_F_DQ in the different configurations. The shaded region is the 15.865 percentile to 84.135 percentile bounds of the PSD data. This corresponds to +/- 1 sigma percentiles for a gaussian variable. Also note that in each decade of freqeuncy, the FFt bin width is different such that each decade has 90 points (eg 0.1 Hz bin width for 1Hz to 10 Hz data, 1 Hz binwidth for 10 Hz to 100 Hz and so on.)
The WFS control points do not show any significant difference in most of the frequency band. The differences below 10 mHz are not averaged enough as this was 30min data segments only.
C1:IOO-MC_F_DQ channel also show no significant difference in 0.1 Hz to 20 Hz. Between 20-100 Hz, we see that higher Q filters resulted in slightly less noise but the effect of the filters in this frequency band should be nothing, so this could be just coincidence or maybe the system behaves better with hgiher Q filters. In teh lower frequency band, we would should take more data to average more after shortlisting on some of these f2a filters. It seems like MC1 Q=10 (red curve) filter performs very good. For MC2, there is no clear sign. I'm not sure why MC2 Q=3 curve got a big offset in low frequency region. Such things normally happen due to significant linear trend presence in signal.
I'm not sure what other channels might be interesting to look at. Some input would be helpful. |
Attachment 1: IMC_f2a_test_results.pdf
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Wed Apr 28 10:56:10 2021 |
Anchal, Paco | Update | SUS | IMC Filters diagnosed |
Good morning!
We ran the f2a filter test for MC1, MC2, and MC3.
Filters
The new filters differ from previous versions by a adding non-unity Q factor for the pole pairs as well.

This in terms of zpk is: [ [zr + i zi, zr - i zi], [pr + i pi, pr - i pi], 1] where
 
- Attachment #1 shows the filters for MC1 evaluated for Q=3, 7,and 10.
- Attachment #2 shows the filters for MC2 evaluated for Q=3, 7, and 10.
- Attachment #3 shows the filters for MC3 evaluated for Q=3, 7, and 10.
- Attachment #4 shows the bode plots generated by foton after uploading for Q=3 case.
We uploaded all these filters using foton, into the three last FM slots on the POS output gain coil.
Tests
We ran tests on all suspended optics using the following (nominal) procedure:
- Upload new input matrix
- Lower the
C1:IOO-WFS_GAIN to 0.05.
- Upload AC coil balancing gains.
- Take ASD for the following channels:
C1:IOO-MC_TRANS_PIT_IN1
C1:IOO-MC_TRANS_YAW_IN1
C1:IOO-MC_WFS1_PIT_IN1
C1:IOO-MC_WFS1_YAW_IN1
C1:IOO-MC_WFS2_PIT_IN1
C1:IOO-MC_WFS2_YAW_IN1
- For the following combinations:
- No excitation** + no filter
- No excitation + filter
- Excitation + no filter
- Excitation + filter
** Excitation = 0.05 - 3.5 Hz uniform noise, 100 amplitude, 100 gain
Plots
- Attachment 5-7 give the test results for MC1, MC2 and MC3.
- In each pdf, the three pages show ASD of TRANS QPD, WFS1 and WFS2 channels' PIT and YAW, respectively.
- Red/blue correspond to data taken while F2A filters were on. Pink/Cyan correspond to data taken with filters off.
- Solid curves were taken with excitation ON and dashed curves were taken with excitation off.
- We see good suppression of POS-> PIT coupling in MC2 and MC3. POS->YAw is minimally affected in all cases.
- MC1 is clearly not doing good with the filters and probably needs readjustement. Something to do later in the future.
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Attachment 1: IMC_F2A_Params_MC1.pdf
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Attachment 2: IMC_F2A_Params_MC2.pdf
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Attachment 3: IMC_F2A_Params_MC3.pdf
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Attachment 4: IMC_F2A_Foton.pdf
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Attachment 5: MC1_POS2ANG_Filter_Test.pdf
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Attachment 6: MC2_POS2ANG_Filter_Test.pdf
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Attachment 7: MC3_POS2ANG_Filter_Test.pdf
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Thu Mar 11 08:13:24 2021 |
Paco, Anchal | Update | SUS | IMC First Free Swing Test failed due to typo, restarting now |
[Paco, Anchal]
The triggered code went on at 5:00 am today but a last minute change I made yesterday to increase number of repititions had an error and caused the script to exit putting everything back to normal. So as we came in the morning, we found the mode cleaner locked continuously after one free swing attempt at 5:00 am. I've fixed the script and ran it for 2 hours starting at 8;10 am. Our plan is to get some data atleast to play with when we are here. If the duration is not long enough, we'll try to run this again tomorrow morning. The new script is running on same tmux session 'MCFreeSwingTest' on Rossa
10:13 the script finished and IMC recovered lock.
Thu Mar 11 10:58:27 2021
The test ran succefully with the mode cleaner optics coming back to normal in the end of it. We wrote some scripts to read data and analyze it. More will come in future posts. No other changes were made today to the systems. |
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Thu Feb 24 19:26:32 2022 |
Anchal | Update | General | IMC Locking |
I think I have aligned the cavity, including MC1 such that we are seeing flashing of fundamental mode and significant transmission sum value as well.However, I'm unable to catch lock following Koji's method in 40m/16673. Autolocker could not catch lock either. Maybe I am doing something wrong, I'll pickup again tomorrow, hopefully the cavity won't drift too much in this time. |
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Wed Aug 2 17:17:37 2023 |
Koji | Update | PSL | IMC Locking (FIXED: Remote switching of PSL shutter is not working) |
After the exploration of c1psl, the IMC locking was not functioning well. It looked like the MC autolocker issue.
Now I remember that the autolocker was running on docker. I followed the instruction on the wiki page. https://wiki-40m.ligo.caltech.edu/Computers_andScripts/AlwaysRunningScripts
Remember: Docker is running on optimus / systemctl is running on megatron!
Then: I noticed that MC autolocker heartbeat was blinking even with the docker stopped (!?). I confirmed that autolocker is not running on systemctl
I had no hope who is toggling the heartbeat, but "ps -def" on megatron showed me that "AutoLockMC_LowPower.csh" is running! I was afraid that it is a remnant from vent!? But, is that possible?
The process was killed and the docker locker is running well now. |
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Sun Feb 27 00:37:00 2022 |
Koji | Update | General | IMC Locking Recovery |
Summary:
- IMC was locked.
- Some alignment change in the output optics.
- The WFS servos working fine now.
- You need to follow the proper alignment procedure to recover the good alignment condition.
Locking:
- Basically followed the previous procedure 40m/16673.
- The autolocker was turned off. Used MC2 and MC3 for the alignment.
- Once I hit the low order modes, increased the IN1 gain to acquire the lock. This helped me to bring the alignment to TEM00
- Found the MC2 spot was way too off in pitch and yaw.
- Moved MC1/2/3 to bring the MC2 spot around the center of the mirror.
- Found a reasonably good visibility (<90%) at a MC2 spot. Decided this to be the reference (at least for now)
SP Table Alignment Work
- Went to the SP table and aligned the WFS1/2 spots.
- I saw no spot on the camera. Found that the beam for the camera was way too weak and a PO mirror was useless to bring the spot on the CCD.
- So, instead, I decided to catch an AR reflection of the 90% mirror. (See Attachment 1)
- This made the CCD vulnerable to the stronger incident beam to the IMC. Work on the CCD path before increasing the incident power.
MC2 end table alignment work
- I knew that the focusing lens there and the end QPD had inconsistent alignment.
- The true MC2 spot needs to be optimized with A2L (and noise analysis / transmitted beam power analysis / etc)
- So, just aligned the QPD spot using today's beam as the temporary target of the MC alignment. (See Attachment 2)
Resulting CCD image on the quad display (Attachment 3)
WFS Servo
- To activate the WFS with the low transmitted power, the trigger threshold was reduced from 5000 to 500. (See Attachment 4)
- WFS offset was reset with /opt/rtcds/caltech/c1/scripts/MC/WFS/WFS_RF_offsets
- Resulting working state looks like Attachment 5 |
Attachment 1: PXL_20220226_093809056.jpg
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Attachment 2: PXL_20220226_093854857.jpg
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Attachment 3: PXL_20220226_100859871.jpg
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Attachment 4: Screenshot_2022-02-26_01-56-31.png
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Attachment 5: Screenshot_2022-02-26_01-56-47.png
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Thu Dec 15 08:37:52 2022 |
JC | Update | Daily Progress | IMC Misalignment |
PMC seems to have gotten very misaligned over the last 12 hours. I'm going in to align now. |
Attachment 1: Screenshot_2022-12-15_08-37-16.png
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Sat Nov 21 00:46:33 2015 |
Koji | Update | IOO | IMC OLTF |
Here is the comparison before and after the fix.
Before the work, the UGF was ~40kHz. The phase margin was ~5deg. This caused huge bump of the frequency noise.
After the LO power increase, I had to reduce the MC loop gain (VCO Gain) from 18dB to 6dB. This resulted 4dB (x2.5) increase of the OLTF. This means that my fix increased the optical gain by 16dB (x6.3). The resulting UGF and phase mergin were measured to be 117kHz and 31deg, respectively.
Now I was curious to see if the PMC err shows reasonable improvement when the IMC is locked. Attachment 2 shows the latest comparison of the PMC err with and without the IMC locked. The PMC error has been taken up to 500kHz. The errors were divided by 17.5kHz LPF and 150kHz LPF to compensate the sensing response. The PMC cavity pole was ignored in this calculation. T990025 saids the PMC finesse is 4400 and the cavity pole is 174kHz. If this is true, this also needs to be applied.
Observations:
1. Now we can see improvement of the PMC error in the region between 10kHz to 70kHz.
2. The sharp peak at 8kHz is due to the marginally stable PMC servo. We should implement another notch there. T990025 suggests that the body resonance of the PMC spacer is somewhere around there. We might be able to damp it by placing a lossy material on it.
3. Similarly, the features at 12kHz and 28kHz is coming from the PMC. They are seen in the OLTF of the PMC loop.
4. The large peak at 36kHz does not change with the IMC state. This does mean that it is coming from the laser itself, or anything high-Q of the PMC. This signal is seen in the IMC error too.
5. 72kHz, 108kHz, 144kHz: Harmonics of 36kHz?
6. Broad feature from 40kHz to 200kHz. The IMC loop is adding the noise. This is the frequency range of the PC drive. Is something in the PC drive noisy???
7. The feature at 130kHz. Unknown. Seems not related to IMC. The laser noise or the PMC noise.
Remaining IMC issues:
Done (Nov 23, 2015) - 29.5MHz oscillator output degraded. Possibly unstable and noisy. Do we have any replacement? Can we take a Marconi back from one of the labs?
Done (Nov 23, 2015) - Too high LO?
- Large 36kHz peak in the IMC
- IMC loop shape optimization
- IMC locking issue. The lock streatch is not long.
- IMC PC drive issue. Could be related to the above issue.
Maybe not relevant - PC drive noise? |
Attachment 1: IMC_OLTF.pdf
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Attachment 2: PMC_noise_comparison.pdf
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Sun Nov 22 12:12:17 2015 |
Koji | Update | IOO | IMC OLTF |
Well. I thought a bit more and now I think it is likely that this is just the servo bump as you can see in the closed-loop TF.
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6. Broad feature from 40kHz to 200kHz. The IMC loop is adding the noise. This is the frequency range of the PC drive. Is something in the PC drive noisy???
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Mon Oct 17 17:42:35 2022 |
JC | HowTo | OPLEV Tables | IMC Reflected beam sketch |
I sketched up a quick drawing with estimated length for the IMC reflected beam. This includes the distances and focal length. Distances are from optic to optic. |
Attachment 1: Screenshot_2022-10-18_093033.png
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Thu Aug 23 12:17:39 2012 |
Manasa | Update | | IMC Ringdown |
The ringdown measurements are in progress. But it seems that the MC mirrors are getting kicked everytime the cavity is unlocked by either changing the frequency at the MC servo or by shutting down the input to the MC. This means what we've been observing is not the ringdown of the IMC alone. Attached are MC sus sensor data and the observed ringdown on the oscilloscope. I think we need to find a way to unlock the cavity without the mirrors getting kicked....in which case we should think about including an AOM or using a fast shutter before the IMC.
P.S. The origin of the ripples at the end of the ringdown still are of unknown origin. As of now, I don't think it is because of the mirrors moving but something else that should figured out. |
Attachment 1: mozilla.pdf
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Attachment 2: MC_sus.pdf
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Thu Aug 23 15:35:33 2012 |
rana | Update | | IMC Ringdown |
It is HIGHLY unlikely that the IMC mirrors are having any effect on the ringdown. The ringdowns take ~20 usec to happen. The mirrors are 0.25 kg and you can calculate that its very hard to get enough force to move them any appreciable distance in that time. |
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Thu Aug 23 17:51:25 2012 |
Manasa | Update | | IMC Ringdown |
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It is HIGHLY unlikely that the IMC mirrors are having any effect on the ringdown. The ringdowns take ~20 usec to happen. The mirrors are 0.25 kg and you can calculate that its very hard to get enough force to move them any appreciable distance in that time.
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The huge kick observed in the MC sus sensors seem to last for ~10usec; almost matching the observed ringdown decay time. We should find a way to record the ringdown and the MC sus sensor data simultaneously to know when the mirrors are exactly moving during the measurement process. It could also be that the moving mirrors were responsible for the ripples observed later during the ringdown as well.
* How fast do the WFS respond to the frequency switching (time taken by WFS to turn off)? I think this information will help in narrowing down the many possible explanations to a few. |
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Mon Feb 3 13:54:10 2020 |
Yehonathan | Update | IOO | IMC Ringdowns extended data analysis |
I extended the ringdown data analysis to the reflected beam following Isogai et al.
The idea is that measuring the cavity's reflected light one can use known relationships to extract the transmission of the cavity mirrors and not only the finesse.
The finesse calculated from the transmission ringdown shown in the previous elog is 1520 according to the Zucker model, 1680 according to the first exponential and 1728 according to the second exponential.
Attachment 1 shows the measured reflected light during an IMC ringdown in and out of resonance and the values that are read off it to compute the transmission.
The equations for m1 and m3 are the same as in Isogai's paper because they describe a steady-state that doesn't care about the extinction ratio of the light.
The equation for m2, however, is modified due to the finite extinction present in our zeroth-order ringdown.
Modelling the IMC as a critically coupled 2 mirror cavity one can verify that:
![m_2=P_0KR\left[T-\alpha\left(1-R\right)\right]^2+\alpha^2 P_1](https://latex.codecogs.com/gif.latex?m_2%3DP_0KR%5Cleft%5BT-%5Calpha%5Cleft%281-R%5Cright%29%5Cright%5D%5E2+%5Calpha%5E2%20P_1)
Where is the coupled light power
is the power rejected from the cavity (higher-order modes, sidebands)
is the cavity gain.
and are the power reflectivity and transmissivity per mirror, respectively.
is the power attenuation factor. For perfect extinction, this is 0.
Solving the equations (m1 and m3 + modified m2), using Zucker model's finesse, gives the following information:
Loss per mirror = 84.99 ppm
Transmission per mirror = 1980.77 ppm
Coupling efficiency (to TEM00) = 97.94% |
Attachment 1: IMCTransReflAnalysis_anotated.pdf
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Wed Feb 5 21:13:17 2020 |
Yehonathan | Update | IOO | IMC Ringdowns extended data analysis |
I translate the results obtained in the previous elog to the IMC 3 mirror cavity. I assume the loss in each mirror in the IMC is equal and that M2 has a negligible transmission.
I find that to a very good approximation the loss per IMC mirror is 2/3 the loss per mirror in the 2 mirror cavity model. That is the loss per mirror in the IMC is 56 ppm. The transmission per mirror in the IMC is the same as in the 2 mirror model, which is 1980 ppm.
The total transmission is the same as in the 2 mirror model and is given by:

where is the coupling efficiency to the TEM00 mode. |
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Wed Jan 29 12:40:24 2020 |
Yehonathan | Update | IOO | IMC Ringdowns preliminary data analysis |
I analyze the IMC ringdown data from last night.
Attachment 1 shows the normalized raw data. Oscillations come in much later than in Gautam's measurement. Probably because the IMC stays locked.
Attachment 2 shows fits of the transmitted PD to unconstrained double exponential and the Zucker model.
Zucker model gives time constant of 21.6us
Unconstrained exponentials give time constants of 23.99us and 46.7us which is nice because it converges close to the Zucker model. |
Attachment 1: IMCRingdownNormalizedRawdata.pdf
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Attachment 2: IMCTransPDFits.pdf
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Fri Mar 12 11:44:53 2021 |
Paco, Anchal | Update | training | IMC SUS diagonalization in progress |
[Paco, Anchal]
- Today we spent the morning shift debugging SUS input matrix diagonalization. MC stayed locked for most of the 4 hours we were here, and we didn't really touch any controls. |
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Fri Mar 6 01:12:10 2020 |
gautam | Update | Electronics | IMC Servo IN2 path looks just fine |
It seems like the AO path gain stages on the IMC Servo board work just fine. The weird results I reported earlier were likely a measurement error arising from the fact that I did not disconnect the LEMO IN2 cable while measuring using the BNC IN2 connector, which probably made some parasitic path to ground that was screwing the measurement up. Today, I re-did the measurement with the signal injected at the IN2 BNC, and the TF measured being the ratio of TP3 on the board to a split-off of the SR785 source (T-eed off). Attachments #1, #2 shows the result - the gain deficit from the "expected" value is now consistent with that seen on other sliders.
Note that the signal from the CM board in the LSC rack is sent single-ended over a 2-pin LEMO cable (whose return pin is shorted to ground). But it is received differentially on the IMC Servo board. I took this chance to look for evidence of extra power line noise due to potential ground loops by looking at the IMC error point with various auxiliary cables connected to the board - but got distracted by some excess noise (next elog). |
Attachment 1: AO_inputTFs_5Mar.pdf
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Attachment 2: sliderCal_5Mar.pdf
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Thu Mar 5 19:51:14 2020 |
gautam | Update | Electronics | IMC Servo board being tested |
I am running some tests on the IMC servo board with an extender card so the IMC will not be locking for a couple of hours. |
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Wed Jun 2 09:43:30 2021 |
Anchal, Paco | Summary | SUS | IMC Settings characterization |
Plot description:
- We picked up three 10 min times belonging to the three different configurations:
- 'Old Settings': IMC Suspension settings before Paco and I changed anything. Data taken from Apr 26, 2021, 00:30:42 PDT (GPS 1303457460).
- 'New Settings': New input matrices uploaded on April 28th, along with F2A filters and AC coil balancing gains (see 16091). Data taken from May 01, 2021, 00:30:42 PDT (GPS 1303889460).
- 'New settings with new gains' Above and new suspension damping gains uploaded on May5th, 2021 (see 16120). Data taken from May 07, 2021, 03:10:42 PDT (GPS 1304417460).
- Attachment 1 shows the RMS seismic noise along X direction between 1 Hz and 3 Hz picked from C1:PEM-RMS_BS_X_1_3 during the three time durations chosen. This plot is to establish that RMS noise levels were similar and mostly constant. Page 2 shows the mean ampltidue spectral density of seismic noise in x-direction over the 3 durations.
- Attachment 2 shows the transfer function estimate of seismic noise to MC_F during the three durations. Page 1 shows ratio of ASDs taken with median averaging while page 2 shows the same for mean averaging.
- Attachment 3 shows the transfer function estimate of seismic noise to MC_TRANS_PIT during the three durations. Page 1 shows ratio of ASDs taken with median averaging while page 2 shows the same for mean averaging.
- Attachment 4 shows the transfer function estimate of seismic noise to MC_TRANS_YAW during the three durations. Page 1 shows ratio of ASDs taken with median averaging while page 2 shows the same for mean averaging.
Inferences:
- From Attachment 2 Page 1:
- We see that 'old settings' caused the least coupling of seismic noise to MC_F signal in most of the low frequency band except between 1.5 to 3 Hz where the 'new settings' were slightly better.
- 'new settings' also show less coupling in 4 Hz to 6 Hz band, but at these frequencies, seismix noise is filtered out by suspension, so this could be just coincidental and is not really a sign of better configuration.
- There is excess noise coupling seen with 'new settings' between 0.4 Hz and 1.5 Hz. We're not sure why this coupling increased.
- 'new settings with new gains' show the most coupling in most of the frequency band. Clearly, the increased suspension damping gains did not behaved well with rest of the system.
- From Attachment 3 Page 1:
- Coupling to MC_TRANS_PIT error signal is reduced for 'new settings' in almost all of the frequency band in comparison to the 'old settings'.
- 'new settings with new gains' did even better below 1 Hz but had excess noise in 1 Hz to 6 Hz band. Again increased suspension damping gains did not help much.
- But low coupling to PIT error for 'new settings' suggest that our decoupling efforts in matrix diagonalization, F2A filters and ac coil balancing worked to some extent.
- From Attachment 4 Page 1:
- 'new settings' and 'old settings' have the same coupling of seismic noise to MC_TRANS_YAW in all of the frequency band. This is in-line witht eh fact that we found very little POS to YAW couping in our analysis before and there was little to no change for these settings.
- 'new settings with new gains' did better below 1 Hz but here too there was excess coupling between 1 Hz to 9 Hz.
- Page 1 vs Page 2:
- Mean and median should be same if the data sample was large enough and noise was stationary. A difference between the two suggests existence of outliers in the data set and median provides a better central estimate in such case.
- MC_F: Mean and median are same below 4 hz. There are high frequency outliers above 4 Hz in 'new settings with new gains' and 'old settings' data sets, maybe due to transient higher free running laser frequency noise. But since, suspension settigns affect below 1 Hz mostly, the data sets chosen are stationary enough for us.
- MC_TRANS_PIT: Mean ratio is lower for 'new settings' and 'old settings' in 0.3 hz to 0.8 Hz band. Same case above 4 Hz as listed above.
- MC_TRANS_YAW: Same as above.
- Conclusion 1: The 'new settings with new gains' cause more coupling to seismic noise, probably due to low phase margin in control loops. We should revert back the suspension damping gains.
- Conclusion 2: The 'new settings' work as expected and can be kept when WFS loops are optimized further.
- Conjecture: From our experience over last 2 weeks, locking the arms to the main laser with 'new settings with new gains' introduces noise in the arm length large enough that the Xend green laser does not remain locked to the arm for longer than tens of seconds. So this is definitely not a configuration in which we can carry out other measurements and experiments in the interferometer.
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Attachment 1: seismicX.pdf
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Attachment 2: seismicXtoMC_F_TFest.pdf
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Attachment 3: seismicXtoMC_TRANS_PIT_TFest.pdf
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Attachment 4: seismicXtoMC_TRANS_YAW_TFest.pdf
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Thu Apr 29 18:53:33 2021 |
Anchal | Update | SUS | IMC Suspension Damping Gains Test |
With the input matrix, coil ouput gains and F2A filters loaded as in 16091, I tested the suspension loops' step response to offsets in LSC, ASCPIT and ASCYAW channels, before and after applying the "new damping gains" mentioned in 16066 and 16072. If these look better, we should upload the new (higher) damping gains as well. This was not done in 16091.
Note that in the plots, I have added offsets in the different channels to plot them together, hence the units are "au". |
Attachment 1: MC1_SUSDampGainTest.pdf
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Attachment 2: MC2_SUSDampGainTest.pdf
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Attachment 3: MC3_SUSDampGainTest.pdf
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Mon May 3 16:24:14 2021 |
Anchal | Update | SUS | IMC Suspension Damping Gains Test Repeated with IMC unlocked |
We repeated the same test with IMC unlocked. We had found these gains when IMC was unlocked and their characterization needs to be done with no light in the cavity. attached are the results. Everything else is same as before.
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With the input matrix, coil ouput gains and F2A filters loaded as in 16091, I tested the suspension loops' step response to offsets in LSC, ASCPIT and ASCYAW channels, before and after applying the "new damping gains" mentioned in 16066 and 16072. If these look better, we should upload the new (higher) damping gains as well. This was not done in 16091.
Note that in the plots, I have added offsets in the different channels to plot them together, hence the units are "au".
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Edit Tue May 4 14:43:48 2021 :
- Adding zoomed in plots to show first 25s after the step.
- MC1:
- Our improvements by new gains are only modest.
- This optic needs a more careful coil balancing first.
- Still the ring time is reduced to about 5s for all step responses as opposed to 10s at old gains.
- MC2:
- The first page of MC2 might be bit misleading. We have not changed the damping gain for SUSPOS channel, so the longer ringing is probably just an artifact of somthing else. We didn't retake data.
- In PIT and YAW where we increased the gain by a factor of 3, we see a reduction in ringing lifetime by about half.
- MC3:
- We saw the most optimistic improvement on this optic.
- The gains were unusually low in this optic, not sure why.
- By increasing SUSPOS gain from 200 to 500, we saw a reduction of ringing halftime from 7-8s to about 2s. Improvements are seen in other DOFs as well.
- You can notice rightaway that YAW of MC3 keeps oscillating near resonance (about 1 Hz). Maybe more careful feedback shaping is required here.
- In SUSPIT, we increased gain from 12 to 35 and saw a good reduction in both ringing time and initial amplitude of ringing.
- In SUSYAW, we only increased the gain to 12 from 8, which still helped a lot in reducing big ringing step response to below 5s from about 12s.
Overall, I would recommend setting the new gains in the suspension loops as well to observe long term effects too. |
Attachment 1: MC1_SusDampGainTest.pdf
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Attachment 2: MC2_SusDampGainTest.pdf
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Attachment 3: MC3_SusDampGainTest.pdf
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Wed Jun 2 16:20:59 2021 |
Anchal, Paco | Summary | SUS | IMC Suspension gains reverted to old values |
Following the conclusion, we are reverting the suspension gains to old values, i.e.
IMC Suspension Gains
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SUSPIT |
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While the F2A filters, AC coil gains and input matrices are changed to as mentioned in 16066 and 16072.
The changes can be reverted all the way back to old settings (before Paco and I changed anything in the IMC suspensions) by running python scripts/SUS/general/20210602_NewIMCOldGains/restoreOldConfigIMC.py on allegra. The new settings can be uploaded back by running python scripts/SUS/general/20210602_NewIMCOldGains/uploadNewConfigIMC.py on allegra.
Change time:
Unix Time = 1622676038
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- Conclusion 1: The 'new settings with new gains' cause more coupling to seismic noise, probably due to low phase margin in control loops. We should revert back the suspension damping gains.
- Conclusion 2: The 'new settings' work as expected and can be kept when WFS loops are optimized further.
- Conjecture: From our experience over last 2 weeks, locking the arms to the main laser with 'new settings with new gains' introduces noise in the arm length large enough that the Xend green laser does not remain locked to the arm for longer than tens of seconds. So this is definitely not a configuration in which we can carry out other measurements and experiments in the interferometer.
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Thu Apr 29 10:52:56 2021 |
Anchal | Update | SUS | IMC Trans QPD and WFS loops step response test |
In 16087 we mentioned that we were unable to do a step response test for WFS loop to get an estimate of their UGF. The primary issue there was that we were not putting the step at the right place. It should go into the actuator directly, in this case, on C1:SUS-MC2_PIT_COMM and C1:SUS-MC2_YAW_COMM. These channels directly set an offset in the control loop and we can see how the error signals first jump up and then decay back to zero. The 'half-time' of this decay would be the inverse of the estimated UGF of the loop. For this test, the overall WFS loops gain, C1:IOO-WFS_GAIN was set to full value 1. This test is performed in the changed settings uploaded in 16091.
I did this test twice, once giving a step in PIT and once in YAW.
Attachment 1 is the striptool screenshot for when PIT was given a step up and then step down by 0.01.
- Here we can see that the half-time is roughly 10s for TRANS_PIT and WFS1_PIT corresponding to roughly 0.1 Hz UGF.
- Note that WFS2 channels were not disturbed significantly.
- You can also notice that third most significant disturbance was to TRANS_YAW actually followed by WF1 YAW.
Attachment 2 is the striptool screenshot when YAW was given a step up and down by 0.01. Note the difference in x-scale in this plot.
- Here, TRANS YAW got there greatest hit and it took it around 2 minutes to decay to half value. This gives UGF estimate of about 10 mHz!
- Then, weirdly, TRANS PIT first went slowly up for about a minutes and then slowly came dome in a half time of 2 minutes again. Why was PIT signal so much disturbed by the YAW offset in the first place?
- Next, WFS1 YAW can be seen decaying relatively fast with half-life of about 20s or so.
- Nothing else was disturbed much.
- So maybe we never needed to reduce WFS gain in our measurement in 16089 as the UGF everywhere were already very low.
- What other interesting things can we infer from this?
- Should I sometime repeat this test with steps given to MC1 or MC3 optics?
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Attachment 1: PIT_OFFSET_ON_MC2.png
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Attachment 2: YAW_STEP_ON_MC2_complete.png
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Sat Feb 15 12:56:24 2020 |
Yehonathan | Update | IOO | IMC Transfer function measurement |
{Yehonathan, Meenakshi}
We measure the IMC transfer function using SR785.
We hook up the AOM driver to the SOURCE OUT, Input PD to CHANNEL ONE and the IMC transmission PD to CHANNEL TWO.
We use the frequency response measurement feature in the SR785. A swept sine from 100KHz to 100Hz is excited with an amplitude of 10mV.
Attachment 1 shows the data with a fit to a low pass filter frequency response.
IMC pole frequency is measured to be 3.795KHz, while the ringdowns predict a pole frequency 3.638KHz, a 4% difference.
The closeness of the results discourages me from calibrating the PDs' transfer functions.
I tend to believe the pole frequency measurement a bit more since it coincides with a linewidth measurement done awhile ago Gautam was telling me about.
Thoughts:
I think of trying to try another zero-order ringdown but with much smaller excitation than what used before (500mV) and than move on to the first-order beam.
Also, it seems like the reflection signal in zero-order ringdown (Attachment 2, green trace) has only one time constant similar to the full extinction ringdown. The reason is that due to the fact the IMC is critically coupled there is no DC term in the electric field even when the extinction of light is partial. The intensity of light, therefore, has only one time constant.
Fitting this curve (Attachment 3) gives a time constant of 18us, a bit too small (gives a pole of 4.3KHz). I think a smaller extinction ringdown will give a cleaner result. |
Attachment 1: IMCFrequencyResponse.pdf
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Attachment 2: IMCRingdownNormalizedRawdata.pdf
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Attachment 3: IMCREFLPDFits.pdf
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Tue Aug 25 16:09:54 2015 |
ericq | Update | IOO | IMC Tweak |
A little more information about the IMC loop tweak...
I increased the overall IMC loop gain by 4dB, and decreased the FAST gain (which determines the PZT/EOM crossover) by 3dB. This changed the AO transfer function from the blue trace to the green trace in the first plot. This changed the CARM loop open loop TF shape from the unfortunate blue shape to the more pleasing green shape in the second plot. The red trace is the addition of one super boost.
 
Oddly, these transfer functions look a bit different than what I measured in March (ELOG 11167), which itself differed from the shaping done December of 2014 (ELOG 10841).
I haven't yet attempted any 1F handoff of the PRMI since relocking, but back when Jenne and I did so in April, the lock was definitely less stable. My suspicion is that we may need more CARM supression; we never computed the loop gain requirement that ensures that the residual CARM fluctuations witnessed by, say, REFL55 are small enough to use as a reliable PRMI sensor.
I should be able to come up with this with data from last night. |
Attachment 1: imcTweak.pdf
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Attachment 2: CARM_TF.pdf
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Fri Aug 28 19:05:53 2015 |
rana | Update | IOO | IMC Tweak |
Well, green looks better than blue, but it makes the PCDRIVE go high, which means its starting to saturate the EOM drive. So we can't just maximize the phase margin in the PZT/EOM crossover. We have to take into account the EOM drive spectrum and its RMS.
Also, your gain bump seems suspicious. See my TF measurements of the crossover in December. Maybe you were saturating the EOM in your TF ?
Lets find out what's happening with FSS servos over in Bridge and then modify ours to be less unstable. |
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Tue May 5 23:44:14 2020 |
gautam | Update | ASC | IMC WFS |
Summary:
I've been thinking about the IMC WFS. I want to repeat the sort of analysis done at LLO where a Finesse model was built and some inferences could be made about, for example, the Gouy phase separation b/w the sensors by comparing the Finesse sensing matrix to a measured sensing matrix. Taking the currently implemented output matrix as a "measurement" (since the IMC WFS stabilize the IMC transmission), I don't get any agreement between it and my Finesse model. Could be that the model needs tweaking, but there are several known issues with the WFS themselves (e.g. imbalanced segment gains).
Building the finesse model:
- I pulled the WFS telescopes from Andres elogs/SURF report, which I think was the last time the WFS telescopes were modified.
- The in-vacuum propagation distances were estimated from CAD diagrams.
- According to my model, the Gouy phase separation between the two WFS heads is ~70 degrees, whereas Andres' a la mode simulations suggest more like 90 degrees. Presumably, some lengths/lenses are different between what I assume and what he used, but I continue the analysis anyway...
- The appropriate power attenuations were placed in each path - one thing I noticed is that the BS that splits light between WFS1 and WFS2 is a 30/70 BS and not a 50/50,
I don't see any reason why this should be (presumably it was to do with component availability). see below for Rana's comments.
Simulations:
- The way the WFS servos are set up currently, the input matrix is diagonal while the output matrix encodes the sensing information.
- In finesse, I measured the input matrix (i.e. response sensed in each sensor when an optic is dithered in angle). The length is kept resonant for the carrier (but not using a locking signal), which should be valid for small angular disturbances, which is the regime in which the error signals will be linear anyways.
- Then I inverted the simulated sensing matrix so as to be able to compare with the CDS output matrix. Note that there is a relative gain scaling of 100 between the WFS paths and the MC2T QPD paths which I added to the simulation. I also normalized the columns of the matrix by the largest element in the column, in an attempt to account for the various other gains that are between the optical sensing and the digitizaiton (e.g. WFS demod boards, QPD transimpedance etc etc).
- Attachment #1 shows the comparison between simulation and measurement. The two aren't even qualitatively similar, needs more thought...
Some notes about the WFS heads:
- The transimpedance resistor is
1.5 kohms. With the gain stages, the transimpedance gain is nominally 37.5 kohms, and 3.75 kohms when the attenuation setting is engaged (as it is for 2/4 quadrants on each head).
- Assuming a modulation depth of 0.1, the Johnson noise of the transimpedance resistor dominates (with the MAX4106 current noise a close second), and these heads cannot be shot noise limited when operating at 1 W input power (though of course the situation will change if we have 25 W input).
- The heads are mounted at a ~45 deg angle, mixing PIT/YAW, but I assume we can just use the input matrix to rotate back to the natural PIT/YAW basis.
Update 215 pm 5/6: adding in some comments from Rana raised during the meeting:
- The transimpedance is actually done by the RLC network (L6 and C38 for CH 3), and not 1.5 kohms. It just coincidentally happens that the reactance is ~1.5 kohms at 29.5 MHz. Note that my LTspice simulation using ideal inductors and capacitors still predicts ~4pA/rtHz noise at 29.5 MHz, so the conclusion about shot noise remains valid I think... One option is to change the attenuation in this path and send more light onto the WFS heads.
The transimpedance gain and noise are now in Attachment #2. I just tweaked the L values to get a peak at 29.5 MHz and a notch at twice that frequency. For this I assumed a photodiode capacitance of 225pF and the shown transimpedance gain has the voltage gain of the MAX4106 stages divided out. The current noise is input referred.
- The imbalanced power on WFS heads may have some motivation - it may be that the W/rad TF for one of the two modes we are trying to sense (beam plane tilt vs beam plane translation) is not equal, so we want more light on the head with weaker response.
- The 45 degree mounting of the heads is actually meant to decouple PIT and YAW.
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Attachment 1: WFSmatrixComparison.pdf
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Attachment 2: WFSheadNoise.pdf
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Thu May 7 09:43:21 2020 |
rana | Update | ASC | IMC WFS |
This is the doc from Keita Kawabe on why the WFS heads should be rotated. |
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Thu May 7 10:58:06 2020 |
gautam | Update | ASC | IMC WFS |
OK so the QPD segments are in the "+" orientation when the 40m IMC WFS heads are mounted at 45 deg. I thought "+" was the natural PIT/YAW basis but I guess in the the LIGO parlance, the "X" orientation was considered more natural.
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This is the doc from Keita Kawabe on why the WFS heads should be rotated.
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Tue Jul 12 09:25:09 2022 |
rana | Update | IOO | IMC WFS |
MC WFS Demod board needs some attention.
Tomislav has been measuring a very high noise level in the MC WFS demod output (which he promised to elog today!). I thought this was a bogus measurement, but when he, and Paco and I tried to measure the MC WFS sensing matrix, we noticed that there is no response in any WFS, although there are beams on the WFS heads. There is a large response in MC2 TRANS QPD, so we know that there is real motion.
I suspect that the demod board needs to be reset somehow. Maybe the PLL is unlocked or some cable is wonky. Hopefully not both demod boards are fried.
Please leave the WFS loops off until demod board has been assessed. |
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Fri Oct 7 20:00:46 2022 |
Koji | Update | IOO | IMC WFS / MC2 SUS glitch |
After the CDS upgrade team called for a day (their work TBD), I took over the locked IMC to check how it looked like.
The lock was robust but the IMC REFL spot and the WFS DC/MC2 QPD were moving too much.
I wondered if there were something wrong with the damping. I thought MC3 damping seemed weak, but this was torelable level.LR
During the ring down check of MC2, I saw that the OSEM signals were glitchy. In the end I found it was LR sensor which was glitchy and fluctuating.
I went into the lab and pushed the connectors on the euro card modules and the side connectors as well as the cables on the MC2 sat amp.
I came back to the control room and found the MC2 LR OSEMs had the jump and it seems more stable now.
I leave the IMC locked & WFS running. This sus situation is not great at all and before we go too far, we'll work on the transition to the new electronics (but not today or next week).
By the way the unit of the signals on the dataviewer didn't make sense. Something seemed wrong with them. |
Attachment 1: Screenshot_2022-10-07_19-59-45.png
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Sun Oct 9 13:49:49 2022 |
Koji | Update | IOO | IMC WFS / MC2 SUS glitch |
The IMC and the IMC WFS kept running for ~2days. 👍
I wanted to look at the trand of the IMC REFL DC, but the dataviewer showed that the recorded values are zero. And this slow channel is missing in the channel list.
I checked the PSL PMC signals (slow) as an example, and many channels are missing in the channel list.
So something is not right with some part of the CDS.
Note that I also reported that the WFS plot in the above refered previous elog has the value like 1e39
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Attachment 1: Screen_Shot_2022-10-09_at_13.49.12.png
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Mon Oct 10 00:05:24 2022 |
Chris | Update | IOO | IMC WFS / MC2 SUS glitch |
Thanks for pointing out that EPICS data collection (slow channels) was not working. I started the service that collects these channels (standalone_edc, running on c1sus), and pointed it to the channel list in /opt/rtcds/caltech/c1/chans/daq/C0EDCU.ini , so this should be working now.
controls@c1sus:~$ systemctl status rts-edc_c1sus
● rts-edc_c1sus.service - Advanced LIGO RTS stand-alone EPICS data concentrator
Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/rts-edc_c1sus.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Active: active (running) since Sun 2022-10-09 23:30:15 PDT; 10h ago
Main PID: 32154 (standalone_edc)
CGroup: /system.slice/rts-edc_c1sus.service
├─32154 /usr/bin/standalone_edc -i /etc/advligorts/edc.ini -l 0.0.0.0:9900
└─32159 caRepeater
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The IMC and the IMC WFS kept running for ~2days. 👍
I wanted to look at the trand of the IMC REFL DC, but the dataviewer showed that the recorded values are zero. And this slow channel is missing in the channel list.
I checked the PSL PMC signals (slow) as an example, and many channels are missing in the channel list.
So something is not right with some part of the CDS.
Note that I also reported that the WFS plot in the above refered previous elog has the value like 1e39
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Sat Nov 26 19:16:28 2016 |
Koji | Update | IOO | IMC WFS Demod board measurement & analysis |
[Rana, Koji]
1. The response of the IMC WFS board was measured. The LO signal with 0.3Vpp@29.5MHz on 50Ohm was supplied from DS345. I've confirmed that this signal is enough to trigger the comparator chip right next to the LO input. The RF signal with 0.1Vpp on the 50Ohm input impedance was provided from another DS345 to CH1 with a frequency offset of 20Hz~10kHz. Two DS345s were synced by the 10MHz RFreference at the rear of the units. The resulting low frequency signal from the 1st AF stage (AD797) and the 2nd AF stage (OP284) were checked.
Attachment 1 shows the measured and modelled response of the demodulator with various frequency offsets. The value shows the signal transfer (i.e. the output amplitude normalized by the input amplitude) from the input to the outputs of the 1st and 2nd stages. According to the datasheet, the demodulator chip provides a single pole cutoff of 340kHz with the 33nF caps between AP/AN and VP. The first stage is a broadband amplifier, but there is a passive LPF (fc=~1kHz). The second stage also provides the 2nd order LPF at fc~1kHz too. The measurement and the model show good agreement.
2. The output noise levels of the 1st and 2nd stages were meausred and compared with the noise model by LISO.
Attachment 2 shows the input referred noise of the demodulator circuit. The output noise is basically limited by the noise of the first stage. The noise of the 2nd stage make the significant contribution only above the cut off freq of the circuit (~1kHz). And the model supports this fact. The 6.65kOhm of the passive filter and the input current noise of AD797 cause the large (>30nV/rtHz) noise contribution below 100Hz. This completely spoils the low noiseness (~1nV/rtHz) of AD797. At lower frequency like 0.1Hz other component comes up above the modelled noise level.
3. Rana and I had a discussion about the modification of the circuit. Attachment 4 shows the possible improvement of the demod circuit and the 1st stage preamplifier. The demodulator chip can have a cut off by the attached capacitor. We will replace the 33nF caps with 1uF and the cut off will be pushed down to ~10kHz. Then the passive LPF will be removed. We don't need "rodeo horse" AD797 for this circuit, but op27 is just fine instead. The gain of the 1st stage can be increased from 9 to 21. This should give us >x10 improvement of the noise contribution from the demodualtor (Attachment 3). We also can replace some of the important resistors with the thin film low noise resistors. |
Attachment 1: WFS_demod_response.pdf
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Attachment 2: WFS_demod_noise.pdf
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Attachment 3: WFS_demod_noise_plan.pdf
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Attachment 4: Screen_shot_2011-07-01_at_11.13.01_AM.png
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Tue Nov 29 17:45:06 2016 |
Koji | Update | IOO | IMC WFS Demod board measurement & analysis |
Summary: The demodulator input noise level was improved by a factor of more than 2. This was not as much as we expected from the preamp noise improvement, but is something. If this looks OK, I will implement this modification to all the 16 channels.
The modification shown in Attachment 1 has actually been applied to a channel.
- The two 1.5uF capacitors between VP and AN/AP were added. This decreases the bandwidth of the demodulator down to 7.4kHz
- The offset trimming circuit was disabled. i.e. Pin18 of AD831 was grounded.
- The passive low pass at the demodulator output was removed. (R18, C34)
- The stage1 (preamp) chip was changed from AD797 to OP27.
- The gain of the preamp stage was changed from 9 to 21. Also the thin film resistors are used.
Attachment 2 shows the measured and expected output signal transfer of the demodulator. The actual behavior of the demodulator is as expected, and we still keep the over all LPF feature of 3rd order with fc=~1kHz.
Attachment 3 shows the improvement of the noise level with the signal reffered to the demodulator input. The improvement by a factor >2 was observed all over the frequency range. However, this noise level could not be explained by the preamp noise level. Actually this noise below 1kHz is present at the output of the demodulator. (Surprisingly, or as usual, the noise level of the previous preamp configuration was just right at the noise level of the demodulator below 100Hz.) The removal of the offset trimmer circuit contributed to the noise improvement below 0.3Hz.
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Attachment 1: demod.pdf
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Attachment 2: WFS_demod_response.pdf
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Attachment 3: WFS_demod_noise.pdf
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rana | Update | IOO | IMC WFS Demod board measurement & analysis |
more U4 gain, lesssss U5 gain |
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Fri Dec 2 18:02:37 2016 |
Koji | Update | IOO | IMC WFS Demod board measurement & analysis |
ELOG of the Wednesday work.
It turned out that the IMC WFS demod boards have the PCB board that has a different pattern for each of 8ch.
In addition, AD831 has a quite narrow leg pitch with legs that are not easily accessible.
Because of these, we (Koji and Rana) decided to leave the demodulator chip untouched.
I have plugged in the board with the WFS2-Q1 channel modified in order to check the significance of the modification.
WFS performance before the modification
Attachment 1 shows the PSD of WFS2-I1_OUT calibrated to be referred to the demodulator output. (i.e. Measured PSDs (cnt/rtHz) were divided by 8.9*2^16/20)
There are three curves: One is the output with the MC locked (WFS servos not engaged). The second is the PSD with the PSL beam blocked (i.e. dark noise). The third is the electronics noise with the RF input terminated and the nominal LO supplied.
This tells us that the measured PSD was dominated by the demodulator noise in the dark condition. And the WFS signal was also dominated by the demod noise below 0.1Hz and above 20Hz. There are annoying features at 0.7, 1.4, 2.1, ... Hz. They basically impose these noise peaks on the stabilized mirror motion.
WFS performance after the modification
Attachment 2 shows the PSD of WFS2-Q1_OUT calibrated to be referred to the demodulator output. (i.e. Measured PSDs (cnt/rtHz) were divided by 21.4*2^16/20)
There are three same curves as the other plot. In addition to these, the PSD of WFS2-I1_OUT with the MC locked is also shown as a red curve for comparison.
This figure tells us that the measured PSD below 20Hz was dominated by the demodulator noise in the dark condition. And the WFS signal is no longer dominated by the electronics noise. However, there still are the peaks at the harmonics of 0.7, 1.4, 2.1, ... Hz. I need further inspection of the FWS demod and whtening boards to track down the cause of these peaks. |
Attachment 1: WFS_demod_noise_orig.pdf
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Attachment 2: WFS_demod_noise_mod.pdf
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Sat Dec 3 13:27:35 2016 |
Koji | Update | IOO | IMC WFS Demod board measurement & analysis |
ELOG of the work on Thursday
Gautam suggested looking at the preamplifier noise by shorting the input to the first stage. I thought it was a great idea.
To my surprise, the noise of the 2nd stage was really high compared to the model. I proceeded to investigate what was wrong.
It turned out that the resistors used in this sallen-key LPF were thick film resistors. I swapped them with thin film resistors and this gave the huge improvement of the preamplifier noise in the low frequency band.
Attachment 1 shows the summary of the results. Previously the input referred noise of the preamp was the curve in red. We the resistors replaced, it became the curve in magenta, which is pretty close to the expected noise level by LISO model above 3Hz (dashed curves). Unfortunately, the output of the unit with the demodulator connected showed no improvement (blue vs green), because the output is still limited by the demodulator noise. There were harmonic noise peaks at n x 10Hz before the resistor replacement. I wonder if this modification also removed the harmonic noise seen in the CDS signals. I will check this next week.
Attachment 2 shows the current schematic diagram of the demodulator board. The Q of the sallen key filter was adjusted by the gain to have 0.7 (butter worth). We can adjust the Q by the ratio of the capacitance. We can short 3.83K and remove 6.65K next to it. And use 22nF and 47nF for the capacitors at the positive input and the feedback, respectively. This reduces the number of the resistors. |
Attachment 1: WFS_demod_noise.pdf
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Attachment 2: demod.pdf
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Tue Dec 6 13:37:02 2016 |
Koji | Update | IOO | IMC WFS Demod board measurement & analysis |
I have implemented the modification to the demod boards (Attachment 1).
Now, I am looking at the noise in the whitening board. Attachment 2 shows the comparison of the error signal with the input of the whitening filter shorted and with the 50ohm terminator on the demodulator board. The message is that the whitening filter dominates the noise below 3Hz.
I am looking at the schematic of the whitening board D990196-B. It has an VGA AD602 at the input. I could not find the gain setting for this chip.
If the gain input is fixed at 0V, AD602 has the gain of 10dB. The later stages are the filters. I presume they have the thick film resistors.
Then they may also cause the noise. Not sure which is the case yet.
Also it seems that 0.7Hz noise is still present. We can say that this is coming from the demod board but not on the work bench but in the eurocard crate. |
Attachment 1: demod.pdf
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Attachment 2: WFS_error_noise.pdf
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Sat Dec 3 17:42:25 2022 |
Anchal | Update | ASC | IMC WFS Fixed for now |
Today I did a lot of steps to eventually reach to WFS locking stably for long times and improving and keeping the IMC transmission counts to 14400. I think the main culprit in thw WFS loop going unstable was the offset value set on MC_TRANS_PIT filter module (C1:IOO-MC_TRANS_PIT_OFFSET). This value was roughly correct in magnitude but opposite in sign, which created a big offset in MC_TRANS PIT error signal which would integrate by the loops and misalign the mode cleaner.
WFS offsets tuning
- I ran C1:IOO-WFS_MASTER > Actiona > Correct WFS DC offsets script while the two WFS heads were blocked.
- Then I aligned IMC to maximize transmission. I also made PMC transmission better by walking the input beam.
- Then, while IMC is locked and WFS loops are off, I aligned the beam spot on WFS heads to center it in DC (i.e. zeroing C1:IOO-WFS1_PIT_DC, C1:IOO-WFS1_YAW_DC, C1:IOO-WFS2_PIT_DC, C1:IOO-WFS2_YAW_DC)
- Then I ran C1:IOO-WFS_MASTER > Actiona > Correct WFS DC offsets script while keeping IMC locked (note the script says to keep it unlocked, but I think that moves away the beam). If we all agree this is ok, I'll edit this script.
- Then I checked the error signals of all WFS loops and still found that C1:IOO-MC_TRANS_PIT_OUTPUT and C1:IOO-MC_TRANS_YAW_OUTPUT have offsets. I relieved these offsets by averaging the input to these filter moduels for 100s and updating the offset. This is where I noticed that the PIT offset was wrong in sign.
WFS loops UGF tuning
- Starting with only YAW loops, I measured the open loop transfer functions (OLTFs) for each loop by simultaneously injecting gaussian noise from 0.01 Hz to 0.5 Hz using diaggui at the loop filter module excitation points and taking ration of IN1/IN2 of the filter modules.
- Then I scaled the YAW output matrix columns to get UGF of 0.1 Hz when YAW loop was along turned on.
- Then I tried to do this for PIT as well but it failed as even with overall gain of 0.1, the PIT loops actuate a lot of YAW motion causing the IMC to loose lock eventually.
- So I tried locking PIT loops along with YAW loops but with 0.1 overall gain. This worked for long enough that I could get a rough estimate of the OLTFs. I scaled the columns of PIT output matrix and slowly increased the overall gain while repeating this step to get about 0.1 Hz UGF for all PIT loops too.
- Note though that the PIT loop shape did not come out as expected with a shallower slope and much worse coherence for same amount of excitation in comparison to YAW loops. See attached plots.
- Never the less, I was able to reach to an output matric which works at overall gain of 1. I tested this configuration for atleast 15 minutes but the loop was working even with 6 excitations happening simultaneously for OLTF measurement.
- We will need to revisit PIT loop shapes, matrix diagonalization, and sources of noise.
OLTF measurements were done using this diaggui file. The measurement file got deleted by me by mistake, so I recreated the template. Thankfully, I had saved the pdf of the measurements, but I do not have same measurement results in the git repo.
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Attachment 1: IMC_WFS_OLTF.pdf
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Sun Dec 4 16:44:04 2022 |
Anchal | Update | ASC | IMC WFS Fixed for now |
Today, I worked on WFS loop output matrix for PIT DOFs.
- I began with the matrix that was in place before Nov 15.
- I followed the same method as last time to fist get all UGFs around 0.06 Hz with overall gain of 0.6 on the WFS loops.
- This showed me that MC2_TRANS_PIT loop shape matches well with the nice working YAW loops, but the WFS1 and WFS2 loops still looked flat like before.
- This indicated that output matrix needs to be fixed for cross coupling between WFS1 and WFS2 loops.
- I ran this script WFSoutMatBalancing.py which injects low frequency (<0.5 Hz) oscillations when the loops are open, and measures sensing matrix using error signals. I used 1000s duration for this test.
- The direct inverse of this sensing matrix fixed the loop shape for WFS1 indicating WFS1 PIT loop is disentangled from WFS2 now.
- Note this is a very vague definition of diagonalization, but I am aiming to reach to a workign WFS loop asap with whatever means first. Then we can work on accurate diagonalization later.
- I simply ran the script WFSoutMatBalancing.py again for another 1000s and this time the sensing matrix mostly looked like an identity.
- I implemented the new output matrix found by direct inversion and took new OLTF.Again though, the WFS2_PIT loop comes out to be flat. See Attachment 1.
- Then noting from this elog post, I reduced the gain values on MC2 TRANS loops to 0.1 I think it is better to use this place to reduce loop UGF then the output matrix as this will remind us that MC2 TRANS loops are slower than others by 10 times.
- I retook OLTF but very unexpected results came. The overall gain of WFS1_YAW and WFS2_YAW seemed to have increased by 6. All other OLTFs remained same as expected. See attachment 2.
- To fulfill the condition that all UGF should be less than 0.1 Hz, I reduced gains on WFS1_YAW and WFS2_YAW loops but that made the YAW loops unstable. So I reverted back to all gains 1.
- We probably need to diagonalize Yaw matrix better than it is for letting MC2_TRANS_YAW loop to be at lower UGF.
- I'm leaving the mode cleaner in this state and would come back in an hour to see if it remains locked at good alignment. See attachment 3 for current state.
Sun Dec 4 17:36:32 2022 AG: IMC lock is holding as strong as before. None of the control signals or error signals seem to be increasing monotonously over the last one hour. I'll continue monitoring the lock.
Mon Dec 5 11:11:08 2022 AG: IMC was locked all night for past 18 hours. See attachment 4 for the minute trend. |
Attachment 1: IMC_WFS_OLTF_All_Gains_1.pdf
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Attachment 2: IMC_WFS_OLTF_Nom_Gain.pdf
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Attachment 3: WFS_Loop_Configuration.png
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Attachment 4: WFS_Loop_Performance.png
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