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Entry  Tue Jan 11 18:41:43 2011, Jenne, Update, IOO, Put MC PZT offset onto MC board, instead of on awkward cart D040180-B.pdf
    Reply  Wed Jan 12 01:38:52 2011, Koji, Update, IOO, Put MC PZT offset onto MC board, instead of on awkward cart 
       Reply  Wed Jan 12 22:39:16 2011, Suresh, Update, IOO, Put MC PZT offset onto MC board, instead of on awkward cart P1120508.JPGP1120509.JPGD040180-B_with_5V_offset.pdf
Message ID: 4147     Entry time: Wed Jan 12 22:39:16 2011     In reply to: 4140
Author: Suresh 
Type: Update 
Category: IOO 
Subject: Put MC PZT offset onto MC board, instead of on awkward cart 

Quote:

I can not think of any reason that the input impedance of 13kOhm between the pos/neg inputs produces such a big change at the output. In any case, the differential voltage between the pos/neg inputs produces a big output. But the output was just 2V or so. This means that the neg input was actually about zero volt. This ensures the principle of the summing amplifier of this kind.

Because the input impedance of the summing node (the additional resister you put at the negative input) is not infinity, the voltage divider is not perfect and shows 10% reduction of the voltge (i.e. the output will have +4.5V offset instead of +5V). But still it is not enough to explain such a small output like 2.3V.

What I can think of is that the earlier stages somehow have the offset for some reason. Anyway, it is difficult to guess the true reason unless all of the nodes around the last stage are checked with the multimeters.

At least, we can remove the voltage divider and instead put a 10k between -15V and the neg input in order to impose +5V offset at the output. This costs 1.5mA instead of 10mA.

Quote:

[Larisa and Jenne]

We wanted to get rid of the awkward cart that was sitting behind the 1Y1 rack.  This cart was supplying a +5V offset to the PZT driver, so that we could use the MC length signal to feedback to lock the laser to the MC cavity.  Instead, we put the offset on the last op amp before the servo out on the Mc Servo Board.  Because we wanted +5V, but the board only had +5, +15, -15V as options, and we needed -5 to add just before the op amp (U40 in the schematic), because the op amp is using regular negative feedback, we made a little voltage divider between -15V and GND, to give ourselves -5V.  We used the back side of the voltage test points (where you can check to make sure that you're actually getting DC voltage on the board), and used a 511Ohm and 1.02kOhm resistor as a voltage divider. 

Then we put a 3.32kOhm resistor in ~"parallel" to R124, which is the usual resistor just before the negative input of the op amp.  Our -5V goes to our new resistor, and should, at the output, give us a +5V offset. 

Sadly, when we measure the actual output we get, it's only +2.3V.  Sadface.

We went ahead and plugged the servo out into the PZT driver anyway, since we had previously seen that the fluctuation when the mode cleaner is locked was much less than a volt, so we won't run into any problems with the PZT driver running into the lower limit (it only goes 0-10V).

Suresh has discovered that the op amp that we're looking at, U40 on the schematic, is an AD829, which has an input impedance of a measely 13kOhm.  So maybe the 3.32kOhm resistors that we are using (because that's what had already been there) are too large.  Perhaps tomorrow I'll switch all 3 resistors (R119, R124, and our new one) to something more like 1kOhm.  But right now, the MC is locked, and I'm super hungry, and it's time for some arm locking action.

I've attached the schematic.  The stuff that we fitzed with was all on page 8.

 

 

 

[Koji, Suresh]

    We looked at the board and found that the resistor R119 (the feed back) is 1.65k instead of the 3.32k that was needed for unity gain.  The gain has been intentionally reduced to 0.5 so that output range would be close to the 0-10V that is required at the input range of the PZT driver which follows.   A note to this effect is already present in the D040180-B, page 8.

    The voltage divider with 1k and 0.5k provides 4.5V (ref Koji's note above) this provides 2.25V at the output due to the gain of 0.5.  To get to the original goal of introducing a 5V offset on the output, we introduced the modification shown in the  'D040180-B with 5V offset.pdf' uploaded below.  Please check page 8, the changes are marked in red.  We checked to make sure that the output is 5V when the input is disconnected. 

D040180-B_with_5V_offset.pdf

The PCB pics at the end are also attached.  The 4.99k resistor is glued onto the PCB with epoxy and placed as close to the opamp possible.

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