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Entry  Sat Oct 30 05:27:53 2010, yuta, Summary, CDS, CDS time delay measurement delaysetup.pngCDSdelay.png
    Reply  Sat Oct 30 14:35:43 2010, Koji, Summary, CDS, CDS time delay measurement CDS_system_investigation_090323.pdf
       Reply  Mon Nov 1 15:47:15 2010, yuta, Summary, CDS, CDS time delay measurement downupsampling.pngCDSdelay2.png
          Reply  Mon Nov 1 16:43:24 2010, Koji, Summary, CDS, CDS time delay measurement 
             Reply  Sat Nov 20 03:37:11 2010, yuta, Summary, CDS, CDS time delay measurement - the ripple c1tst16Kdelay.png
Message ID: 3829     Entry time: Sat Oct 30 05:27:53 2010     Reply to this: 3830
Author: yuta 
Type: Summary 
Category: CDS 
Subject: CDS time delay measurement 

  We want to know the time delay of CDS in the IOP scheme.


What I did:
1. Plugged out SCSI cable from ADC card 2 and DAC card 0 on C1SUS machine.
   ADC card 2 is ADC 0
   DAC card 0 is DAC 0

2. Measured tranfer function between ADC and DAC by SR785 and compared with the downsampling filter in IOP with 65534Hz(=4x16384Hz) sampling frequency.

  As ADC_0_0 corresponds to PRM ULSEN input and DAC_0_0 corrsponds to ULCOIL output, we turned all the filters off and set gains to 0 or 1 so that TF between ULSEN to ULCOIL will be ideally 1. (see this wiki page for channel assigns)

  The filter coefficients for the down sampling filter was found in;
  It was named feCoeff4x.

static double feCoeff4x[9] =
        -1.71662585474518,    0.78495484219691,   -1.41346289716898,   0.99893884152400,
        -1.68385964238855,    0.93734519457266,    0.00000127375260,   0.99819981588176};

3. Calculated the time delay dt using the following formula;
  dt = [pm - pc]/f/360deg    (pm: measured phase, pc: calculated phase from feCoeff4x, f: frequency)

4. Measured TF between the SCSI cables to estimate the effect of the cables and others.
  Disconnected SCSI cables from ADC and DAC, and connected A aad B(see setup).
  I measured both when input coupling of SR785 is DC and AC and see what happens.

  [time delay of the CDS]  (left, middle)
    The time delay gets larger with frequency. The time delay seems to be -175 usec at DC.
    However, the gain seems a little different from my expectation(feCoeff4x). So, there are maybe other filters I don't know.
    I neglected TF of upsampling this time.

  [cable and other effect]  (right)
    The effect to the time delay measurement was tiny by a factor of 10^4 to 10^3 (few nsec).
    But the total cable length was about 5 m and assuming signal speed is 0.6c, delay will be about 30 nsec.
    I don't know what's happening.


  - make a model that does not go through IOP and see the delay caused by IOP

By the way:
  fb daqd is still running for hours!
  Every FEs are running(c1sus,rms,mcs).

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