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Entry  Wed Feb 20 23:55:51 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, ALS delay line electronics delayLineDemod.pdf.zip
    Reply  Thu Mar 7 01:06:38 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, ALS delay line electronics 
       Reply  Tue Mar 12 22:51:25 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, ALS delay line electronics 
       Reply  Wed Mar 13 01:27:30 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, ALS delay line electronics DFDcal.pdfDFDnoise.pdf
          Reply  Sun Mar 17 00:42:20 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, NF1611 cannot be shot-noise limited? PDnoise.pdf
             Reply  Thu Mar 28 19:40:02 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, BeatMouth with NF1611s assembled IMG_7381.JPGIMG_7382.JPGrelTF_schem.pdfdarkNoise.pdf
                Reply  Fri Mar 29 21:00:06 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, BeatMouth with NF1611s installed IMG_7384.JPGIMG_7385.JPG
                   Reply  Sun Mar 31 15:05:53 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, Fiber beam-splitters not PM IMG_7384.JPG
                      Reply  Wed Apr 3 09:04:01 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, Note about new fiber couplers 
                         Reply  Wed Apr 3 12:32:33 2019, Koji, Update, ALS, Note about new fiber couplers 
                      Reply  Fri Apr 5 00:33:58 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, Promising IR ALS noise IMG_7388.JPGfreeSpace_IR_beat.pdf
                         Reply  Fri Apr 5 11:49:30 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, PSL + X green beat recovery 
                         Reply  Mon Apr 8 00:04:08 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, IR ALS noise budget DFDnoise.pdf
                            Reply  Mon Apr 8 18:28:25 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, EX Green PDH checkout IMG_7393.JPGgreenModeMatch.pdf
                               Reply  Mon Apr 8 23:52:09 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, EX Green PDH error monitor calibrated errMonCalib.pdferrMon.pngOLTF.pdfEX_frequencyNoises.pdf
                                  Reply  Tue Apr 9 00:16:22 2019, rana, Update, ALS, EX Green PDH error monitor calibrated 
                                     Reply  Tue Apr 9 00:18:19 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, EX Green PDH error monitor calibrated 
                                  Reply  Tue Apr 9 18:44:00 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, EX Green PDH discriminant measurement cavityFlashes.pdfmodelPDH.pdf
                            Reply  Tue Apr 9 19:07:12 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, IR ALS noise budget ALS_noiseBudget.pdfALS_noiseBudget.pdf
                               Reply  Thu Apr 11 01:10:05 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, Large 2kHz peak (and harmonics) in ALS X EX_PDH_2kNoise.pdf
                                  Reply  Wed Apr 17 00:50:17 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, Large 2kHz peak (and harmonics) in ALS X no more EX_PDHnoise.pdf
                                     Reply  Wed Apr 17 11:01:49 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, Large 2kHz peak (and harmonics) in ALS X no more EX_PDH_specGram.pdf
                      Reply  Wed May 29 18:13:25 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, Fiber beam-splitters are now PM 
                         Reply  Fri May 31 15:55:16 2019, gautam, Update, ALS, PSL + X beat restored 
Message ID: 14468     Entry time: Wed Feb 20 23:55:51 2019     Reply to this: 14475
Author: gautam 
Type: Update 
Category: ALS 
Subject: ALS delay line electronics 

Summary:

Last year, I worked on the ALS delay line electronics, thinking that we were in danger of saturation. The analysis was incorrect. I find that for RF signal levels between -10 dBm and +15 dBm, assuming 3dB insertion loss due to components and 5 dB conversion loss in the mixer, there is no danger of saturation in the I/F part of the circuit.

Details:

The key is that the MOSFET mixer used in the demodulation circuit drives an I/F current and not voltage. The I-to-V conversion is done by a transimpedance amplifier and not a voltage amplifier. The confusion arose from interpreting the gain of the first stage of the I/F amplifier as 1 kohm/10 ohm = 100. The real figures of merit we have to look at are the current through, and voltage across, the transimpedance resistor.  So I think we should revert to the old setup. This analysis is consistent with an actual test I did on the board, details of which may be found here.

We may still benefit from some whitening of the signal before digitization between 10-100 Hz, need to check what is an appropriate place in the signal chain to put in some whitening, there are some constraints to the circuit topology because of the MOSFET mixer.

One part of the circuit topology I'm still confused by is the choice of impedance-matching transformer at the RF-input of this demod board - why is a 75 ohm part used instead of a 50 ohm part? Isn't this going to actually result in an impedance mismatch given our RG405 cabling?

Update: Having pulled out the board, it looks like the input transformer is an ADT-1-1, and NOT an ADT1-1WT as labelled on the schematic. The former is indeed a 50ohm part. So it makes sense to me now.

Since we have the NF1611 fiber coupled PDs, I'm going to try reviving the X arm ALS to check out what the noise is after bypassing the suspect Menlo PDs we were using thus far. My re-analysis can be found in the attached zip of my ipynb (in PDF form).

Attachment 1: delayLineDemod.pdf.zip  96 kB
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