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Entry  Mon Mar 19 23:44:00 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, IMC loop checkup IMC_RF_noise.pdfIMC_OLTF_20180320.pdf
    Reply  Tue Mar 20 16:53:03 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, IMC loop checkup IMC_RF_noise.pdf
       Reply  Tue Mar 20 21:08:03 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, IMC loop checkup 
          Reply  Tue Mar 20 22:44:45 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, IMC loop checkup 
             Reply  Wed Mar 21 15:52:45 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC error point calibration IMC_PDHdisc_20180321.pdfIMC_PDHdisc785_20180321.pdfIMC_oscope.pdf
                Reply  Wed Mar 21 17:31:21 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC error point calibration IMC_RF_noise_calib.pdf
                   Reply  Wed Mar 21 21:13:44 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, IMC noise budget IMC_RF_noise_calib.pdf
                      Reply  Tue Mar 27 01:39:44 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, PSL noise eater was off IR_ALS_20180326.pdf
                         Reply  Tue Mar 27 19:32:03 2018, arijit, Update, IOO, PSL noise eater was off MCREFL_TF.pdfMCREFL_SPECTRUM.pdf
                            Reply  Tue Mar 27 23:37:35 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC REFL PD removed IMG_6955.JPG
                               Reply  Wed Mar 28 21:31:39 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC REFL PD removed 
                            Reply  Wed Mar 28 21:47:37 2018, arijit, Update, IOO, MCREFL_PD Optical response measurement LISO_fit_with_info.pdfLISO_fit.zip
                               Reply  Thu Mar 29 17:57:36 2018, arijit, Update, IOO, MCREFL_PD Optical response measurement NOISE_EATER_On_OFF.pdf
                                  Reply  Fri Mar 30 06:14:31 2018, rana, Update, IOO, MCREFL_PD Optical response measurement 
                                     Reply  Fri Mar 30 22:37:36 2018, Kevin, Update, IOO, MCREFL_PD Optical response measurement REFLPD_DemodBoard.pdf
                      Reply  Thu Apr 5 04:36:56 2018, Kevin, Update, IOO, Coil driver noise MC3.pdfMC2.pdfCoilDriver.pdf
                         Reply  Thu Apr 5 12:13:18 2018, Koji, Update, IOO, Coil driver noise 
                            Reply  Fri Apr 6 21:39:09 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC2 suspension health checkup MC2_Freeswinging.pdf
                               Reply  Mon Apr 9 18:46:03 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, Further debugging MC_Freeswinging.pdfIMC_NB_20180409.pdf
                                  Reply  Tue Apr 10 14:28:44 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, Further debugging 
                                     Reply  Wed Apr 11 01:34:31 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, Activities today 
                                        Reply  Thu Apr 12 18:12:49 2018, gautam, Update, ALS, NPRO channels hijacked IR_ALS_20180412.pdfBeatMouthDrift.pngETMX_20180416.jpg
                                           Reply  Fri Apr 13 11:02:41 2018, gautam, Update, ALS, EX fiber polarization drift EX_pol_drift.png
                                              Reply  Fri Apr 13 17:56:26 2018, gautam, Update, ALS, Fibers switched out 
                                                 Reply  Sat Apr 14 14:42:09 2018, gautam, Update, ALS, Fibers switched out PSLdrift.png
                                                    Reply  Tue Apr 17 14:08:29 2018, gautam, Update, ALS, Fibers switched out PSL_fluctuations.png
                                                       Reply  Fri Apr 20 00:26:34 2018, gautam, Update, ALS, Fibers switched out 
                                                          Reply  Sat Apr 21 20:25:12 2018, gautam, Update, ALS, PSL fiber pickoff status PSL-beatMouthPickoff.png
                                  Reply  Thu Apr 19 00:03:51 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, More IMC NBing IMC_NB_20180409.pdfIMC_coils_20180418.pdf
                                     Reply  Thu Apr 19 17:15:35 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, More IMC NBing IMC_NB_20180419.pdfIMC_coilDriverNoises_20180419.pdf
                                        Reply  Sun May 20 23:43:50 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, Coil driver noise re-measurement MC1_coilDriver.pdfMC2_coilDriver.pdfMC3_coilDriver.pdfMC_coilDriverNoises.tgzActuationChainNoiseMeas.pdf
                                           Reply  Tue May 22 17:26:25 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC1 Coil Driver pulled out 
                                              Reply  Tue May 22 23:28:01 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC1 Coil Driver pulled out 
                                                 Reply  Wed May 23 17:58:48 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC1 Coil Driver pulled out MC1_monitorTF.pngMC1_ULnoise.pdf
                                                    Reply  Wed May 30 10:17:46 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC1 Coil Driver pulled out EM_pickup.pdfcoilDriverNoiseComparison.pdf
                            Reply  Fri Apr 6 22:23:53 2018, Kevin, Update, IOO, Coil driver noise MC2_coil_driver.pdf
Message ID: 13765     Entry time: Thu Apr 19 00:03:51 2018     In reply to: 13741     Reply to this: 13770
Author: gautam 
Type: Update 
Category: IOO 
Subject: More IMC NBing 

Summary:

As shown in the Attachments, it seems like IMC DAC and coil driver noise is the dominant noise source above 30Hz. If we assume the region around the bounce peak is real motion of the stack (to be confirmed with accelerometer data soon), this NB is starting to add up. Much checking to be done, and I'd also like to get a cleaner measurement of coil driver and DAC noise for all 3 optics, as there seems to be a factor of ~5 disagreement between the MC3 coil driver noise measurement and my previous foray into this subject. The measurement needs to be refined a little, but I think the conclusion holds.

Details:

  1. I had a measurement of the MC3 coil driver noise from ~2weeks ago when I was last working on this that I had not yet added to the NB.
  2. Today I added it. To convert from measured voltage noise to frequency noise, I assumed the usual 0.016N/A per coil number, which is probably a large source of systematic error.
  3. I define the "nominal" IMC operating condition as MC1 and MC3 having the analog de-whitening filters switched on, but MC2 switched off.
  4. So length noise should be dominated by coil driver noise on MC1 and MC3, and DAC noise on MC2.
  5. The measurement I had was made with the input to the coil driver board terminated in 50ohms. Measurement was made in-situ. The measurement has a whole bunch of 60Hz harmonics (despite the Prologix box being powered by a linear power adapter, but perhaps there are other ground loops which are coupling into the measurement). So I'd like to get a cleaner measurement tmrw.
  6. To confirm, Koji suggested some On/Off test by driving some broadband noise in the coils. I figured toggling the analog de-whitening, such that the DAC noise or coil driver electronics dominate is an equally good test.
  7. Attachment #2 shows the effect in arm error and control signal spectra. Note that I engaged analog de-whitening on all 3 optics for the red curves in this plot. But even leaving MC2 de-whitening off, I could see the read curve was below the black reference trace, which was taken with de-whitening off on all 3 optics.

Remarks:

Since I sunk some time into it already, the motivation behind this work is just to try and make the IMC noise budget add up. It is not directly related to lowering the IR ALS noise, but if it is true that we are dominated by coil driver noise, we may want to consider modifying the MC coil driver electronics along with the ITM and ETMs.

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