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Entry  Mon Mar 19 23:44:00 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, IMC loop checkup IMC_RF_noise.pdfIMC_OLTF_20180320.pdf
    Reply  Tue Mar 20 16:53:03 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, IMC loop checkup IMC_RF_noise.pdf
       Reply  Tue Mar 20 21:08:03 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, IMC loop checkup 
          Reply  Tue Mar 20 22:44:45 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, IMC loop checkup 
             Reply  Wed Mar 21 15:52:45 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC error point calibration IMC_PDHdisc_20180321.pdfIMC_PDHdisc785_20180321.pdfIMC_oscope.pdf
                Reply  Wed Mar 21 17:31:21 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC error point calibration IMC_RF_noise_calib.pdf
                   Reply  Wed Mar 21 21:13:44 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, IMC noise budget IMC_RF_noise_calib.pdf
                      Reply  Tue Mar 27 01:39:44 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, PSL noise eater was off IR_ALS_20180326.pdf
                         Reply  Tue Mar 27 19:32:03 2018, arijit, Update, IOO, PSL noise eater was off MCREFL_TF.pdfMCREFL_SPECTRUM.pdf
                            Reply  Tue Mar 27 23:37:35 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC REFL PD removed IMG_6955.JPG
                               Reply  Wed Mar 28 21:31:39 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC REFL PD removed 
                            Reply  Wed Mar 28 21:47:37 2018, arijit, Update, IOO, MCREFL_PD Optical response measurement LISO_fit_with_info.pdfLISO_fit.zip
                               Reply  Thu Mar 29 17:57:36 2018, arijit, Update, IOO, MCREFL_PD Optical response measurement NOISE_EATER_On_OFF.pdf
                                  Reply  Fri Mar 30 06:14:31 2018, rana, Update, IOO, MCREFL_PD Optical response measurement 
                                     Reply  Fri Mar 30 22:37:36 2018, Kevin, Update, IOO, MCREFL_PD Optical response measurement REFLPD_DemodBoard.pdf
                      Reply  Thu Apr 5 04:36:56 2018, Kevin, Update, IOO, Coil driver noise MC3.pdfMC2.pdfCoilDriver.pdf
                         Reply  Thu Apr 5 12:13:18 2018, Koji, Update, IOO, Coil driver noise 
                            Reply  Fri Apr 6 21:39:09 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC2 suspension health checkup MC2_Freeswinging.pdf
                               Reply  Mon Apr 9 18:46:03 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, Further debugging MC_Freeswinging.pdfIMC_NB_20180409.pdf
                                  Reply  Tue Apr 10 14:28:44 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, Further debugging 
                                     Reply  Wed Apr 11 01:34:31 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, Activities today 
                                        Reply  Thu Apr 12 18:12:49 2018, gautam, Update, ALS, NPRO channels hijacked IR_ALS_20180412.pdfBeatMouthDrift.pngETMX_20180416.jpg
                                           Reply  Fri Apr 13 11:02:41 2018, gautam, Update, ALS, EX fiber polarization drift EX_pol_drift.png
                                              Reply  Fri Apr 13 17:56:26 2018, gautam, Update, ALS, Fibers switched out 
                                                 Reply  Sat Apr 14 14:42:09 2018, gautam, Update, ALS, Fibers switched out PSLdrift.png
                                                    Reply  Tue Apr 17 14:08:29 2018, gautam, Update, ALS, Fibers switched out PSL_fluctuations.png
                                                       Reply  Fri Apr 20 00:26:34 2018, gautam, Update, ALS, Fibers switched out 
                                                          Reply  Sat Apr 21 20:25:12 2018, gautam, Update, ALS, PSL fiber pickoff status PSL-beatMouthPickoff.png
                                  Reply  Thu Apr 19 00:03:51 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, More IMC NBing IMC_NB_20180409.pdfIMC_coils_20180418.pdf
                                     Reply  Thu Apr 19 17:15:35 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, More IMC NBing IMC_NB_20180419.pdfIMC_coilDriverNoises_20180419.pdf
                                        Reply  Sun May 20 23:43:50 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, Coil driver noise re-measurement MC1_coilDriver.pdfMC2_coilDriver.pdfMC3_coilDriver.pdfMC_coilDriverNoises.tgzActuationChainNoiseMeas.pdf
                                           Reply  Tue May 22 17:26:25 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC1 Coil Driver pulled out 
                                              Reply  Tue May 22 23:28:01 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC1 Coil Driver pulled out 
                                                 Reply  Wed May 23 17:58:48 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC1 Coil Driver pulled out MC1_monitorTF.pngMC1_ULnoise.pdf
                                                    Reply  Wed May 30 10:17:46 2018, gautam, Update, IOO, MC1 Coil Driver pulled out EM_pickup.pdfcoilDriverNoiseComparison.pdf
                            Reply  Fri Apr 6 22:23:53 2018, Kevin, Update, IOO, Coil driver noise MC2_coil_driver.pdf
Message ID: 13711     Entry time: Tue Mar 27 19:32:03 2018     In reply to: 13708     Reply to this: 13712   13716
Author: arijit 
Type: Update 
Category: IOO 
Subject: PSL noise eater was off 

Kevin, Gautam and Arijit

We made a measurement of the MC_REFL photodiode transfer function using the network analyzer. We did it for two different power input (0dB and -10dB) to the test measurement point of the MC_REFL photodiode. This was important to ensure the measurements of the transfer function of the MC_REFL photodiode was in the linear regime. The measurements are shown in attachment 1. We corrected for phase noise for the length of cable (50cm) used for the measurement. With reference to ELOG 10406, in comparison to the transimpedance measurement performed by Riju and Koji, there is a much stronger peak around 290MHz as observed by our measurement.


We also did a noise measurement for the MC_REFL photodiode. We did it for three scenarios: 1. Without any light falling on the photodiode 2. With light falling on the photodiode, the MC misaligned and the NPRO noise eater was OFF 3. With light falling on the photodiode, the MC misaligned and the NPRO noise eater was ON. We observed that the noise eater does reduce the noise being observed from 80kHz to 20MHz. This is shown in attachment 2.


We did the noise modelling of the MC_REFL photodiode using LISO and tried matching the expected noise from the model with the noise measurements we made earlier. The modeled noise is in good agreement with the measured noise with 10Ohms in the output resistance. The schematic for the MC_REFL photodiode however reveals a 50Ohm resistance being used. The measured noise shows excess noise ~ 290MHz. This is not predicted from the simplied LISO model of the photodiode we took.


Discussion with Koji and Gautam revealed that we do not have the exact circuit diagram for the MC_REFL photodiode. Hence the simplified model that was assumed earlier is not able to predict the excess noise at high frequencies. One thing to note however, is that the excess noise is measured with the same amplitude even with no light falling on the MC_REFL photodiode. This means that there is a positive feedback and oscillation in the op-amp (MAX4107) at high frequencies. One way to refine the LISO model would be to physically examine the photodiode circuit.

We also recorded the POX and POY RF monitor photodiode outputs when the interferometer arms are independently stabilized to the laser. Given the noise outputs from the RF photodiodes were similar, we have only plotted the POY RF monitor output for the sake of clarity and convenience.

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While Kevin and Arijit were doing their MC_REFL PD noise measurements (which they will elog about separately shortly), I noticed a feature around 600kHz that reminded me of the NPRO noise eater feature. This is supposed to suppress the relaxation oscillation induced peak in the RIN of the PSL. Surprisingly, the noise eater switch on the NPRO front panel was set to "OFF". Is this the normal operating state? I thought we want the noise eater to be "ON"? Have to measure the RIN on the PSL table itself with one of the many available pick off PDs. In any case, as Attachment #1 showed, turning the noise eater back on did not improve the excess IMC frequency noise.

 

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