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Entry  Wed Oct 8 03:37:44 2014, ericq, Update, LSC, PRFPMI, other sign of CARM offset 
    Reply  Wed Oct 8 03:49:42 2014, Jenne, Update, LSC, PRFPMI, other sign of CARM offset 
Message ID: 10582     Entry time: Wed Oct 8 03:37:44 2014     Reply to this: 10583
Author: ericq 
Type: Update 
Category: LSC 
Subject: PRFPMI, other sign of CARM offset 

 [ericq, Jenne]

We attempted some of the same old CARM offset reduction tonight, but from the other direction. (We have no direct knowledge of which is the spring and which is the anti-spring side)

We we able to get to, and sit at, arm powers on the order of 5. Really, we kind of wanted just to push things to try and inform our current ideas of what our limiting factor is, so as to appropriately expend our efforts. 

Candidates include:

  • ALS noise causing excess DARM motion
    • Means we need to DRMI to widen DARM linewidth, avoid sign flip in AS55, IR lock DARM sooner
  • Intolerable sensor noise makes CARM wander too much, changing our plant more than our loops can handle
    • We should work on having live calibrated CARM spectra during lock attempts, to compare with Jenne's noise estimates, and see where/how/why we exceed it. 
  • detuned CARM pole causes loop instability
    • Maybe some sort of notching can get us by
    • AO path could extend bandwidth, getting the pole into the control band 
  • SqrtInv signals losing low frequency sensitivity due to radiation pressure, or DC sensitivity due to transmission curve flattening out
    • Bring in AO path for supplementary bandwidth, which lets us turn up loop gain / engage big boosts
    • Or, switch to REFLDC in digital land, which is nontrivial, due to different optical plant shapes.

We took many digital CARM OLTFs at different offsets; it never really looked like a burgeoning pole was about to make things unstable. The low frequency OLTF data had bad SNR, so it wasn't clear if we were losing gain there. We weren't at arm powers where we would expect the DC transmission curve to flatten out yet, from simulations (which is above a few tens).

My impression from at least our last lock loss was a DARM excursion. However, using the DRMI won't get rid of the second two points.

 

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