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Entry  Wed Oct 15 22:07:52 2008, pete, Configuration, PSL, FSS ref phase measurements phasedelay.png
    Reply  Thu Oct 16 09:47:49 2008, Yoichi, Configuration, PSL, FSS ref phase measurements 
Message ID: 1050     Entry time: Wed Oct 15 22:07:52 2008     Reply to this: 1052
Author: pete 
Type: Configuration 
Category: PSL 
Subject: FSS ref phase measurements 
Optimizing the FSS LO/RF phase at 500 kHz, above the servo band, proved to be noisy and those measurements were useless. Today I repeated
the measurement at 35 kHz and got good signal to noise. I've attached a plot of the 35 kHz peak in dBm as measured at IN2 by SR785, with
an injection into TEST2 at 35 kHz with 0.2 Vpp, as a function of delay in ns given by the delay phase shifter normally used by the 166 MHz.
I fit the bottom (quadratic) portion of this curve, and found an optimum delay of 25.8 ns, which can be implemented as 25.81 ns on the phase
shift box (25 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/16). This is an uncalibrated number and meaningless.. For all these measurements a very long SMA cable
(did not measure) was inserted on the RF output of the 21.5 MHz reference box. The actual phase difference depends on these cable lengths
which I didn't measure.

To determine the actual phase difference I compared the LO and RF input points with the 25.81 ns delay, using a scope with poor man's
averaging (33 manual triggers and recording the phase measurements). The phase difference was 8.24 degrees with an error on the mean of 3.4%,
with the LO having the longer effective cable (cable plus delay from the phase delay box). As a sanity check I set the phase delay box
to 20 ns and re-measured, and found 49.5 degrees. (1/21.5 MHz) * (49.5-8.24)/360 = 5.3 ns, which is about the difference between 20 ns
and 25.81 ns. I did the same with 0 ns dialed in, and found a difference of 21.5 ns (I expected 25.8 ns). So it is possible that the
phase delay box isn't too precise.

Finally, to determine the length of cable needed to implement 8.24 degrees of phase at 21.5 MHz with RG58 cable, I made some phase measurements
using the FSS reference box and mismatched cables. I used three cable lengths (93 cm, 140.5 cm, and 169.5 cm ) and two mismatched pairs with
dL of 29 and 76.5 cm. For each pair I took average of 20 measurements, finding 22.54 degrees mean for the dL=29 cm pair (0.78 degrees/cm, or
a speed of light of 1.0e10 cm/s, or 10.6 cm of cable length on the LO) and 43.57 degrees mean for dL=76.5 cm pair (0.57 degrees/cm, or a speed
of light of 1.4e10 cm/s, or 14.5 cm of cable length on the LO). I expected more precise agreement.

Maybe the 21.5 MHz reference box is not zero phase between the outputs. This could be easily tested. It might be interesting to repeat this
measurement with a few more dL values.
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